1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,160 Computer running slow? 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,640 Has your machine somehow acquired a life of its own? 3 00:00:07,140 --> 00:00:11,300 Or do you simply desire a deeper and more meaningful connection? 4 00:00:11,820 --> 00:00:13,880 Be one with your operating system. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,620 It's Arizona's computer guru, Mike Swanson, and his show starts now. 6 00:00:19,940 --> 00:00:24,520 Listen in, chat in, and watch live streaming at gurushow.com. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Want your voice to be heard? 8 00:00:26,300 --> 00:00:28,100 Call in with your questions and riddles. 9 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:31,660 The number is 520-790-2040. 10 00:00:32,060 --> 00:00:35,240 This is the Computer Guru Show on AM1030. 11 00:00:36,140 --> 00:00:37,180 KVOI, The Voice. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,440 Hello and welcome to the Computer Guru Show. 13 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:44,800 My name is Mike, here to deal with your technology needs and treat you like a person in the process. 14 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:46,260 790-2040. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,280 That's 520-790-2040 if you want to be part of the show. 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,620 This is your free tech support for the weekend. 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,340 All you got to do is give us a call, let us know what's going on, and we can help you out. 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,020 I've got Rob here. 19 00:00:58,100 --> 00:00:59,140 I am here this week. 20 00:00:59,180 --> 00:01:00,020 Tara is MIA. 21 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:01,100 She's out of here. 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Seems like I'm always covering for her. 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,120 Always. 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:03,640 Yeah. 25 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,340 Apparently she just doesn't know when to show up to the show. 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,000 No, it's just coincidence. 27 00:01:08,060 --> 00:01:09,020 She's not here and I am. 28 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,600 Yep. 29 00:01:10,060 --> 00:01:10,980 She's, uh, what's she doing? 30 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,400 She's, like, on a beach somewhere sipping Mai Tais, something like that. 31 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Man. 32 00:01:15,820 --> 00:01:16,580 Must be nice. 33 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,620 She's probably listening right now and laughing because she's not here. 34 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:20,440 Yep. 35 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:27,720 She's probably just being like, man, look at all this sand and not 117 degree weather that I'm experiencing. 36 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:28,360 Yeah. 37 00:01:28,420 --> 00:01:32,060 Let's just say that, uh, here in Tucson, we need to spend this weekend indoors. 38 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:32,900 Yeah. 39 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,080 You're not supposed to talk about the weather on radio, but holy moly, it's hot. 40 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,900 It's not weather anymore. 41 00:01:39,060 --> 00:01:40,380 That's like a hazard. 42 00:01:40,540 --> 00:01:45,060 It's some sort of, there's a natural disaster created by the sun happening here this weekend. 43 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:46,940 It's, uh, it is unpleasant. 44 00:01:47,580 --> 00:01:50,000 I have to go buy some sunscreen or something today. 45 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:55,060 Like at some point in the future, they're going to show clips from this weekend in IMAX theaters with Kevin Bacon talking over it. 46 00:01:55,140 --> 00:01:56,460 I saw some picture. 47 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,080 Uh, I don't know where it was. 48 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:07,620 I don't know where it was at, but apparently they made their light posts on a pier out of some type of plastic and they were just all melted and leaning over. 49 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,120 Yeah. 50 00:02:08,140 --> 00:02:12,960 I've seen, uh, I've seen like pictures where it's like, you know, you're in Arizona when, and it's just a dumpster that is melted. 51 00:02:13,060 --> 00:02:13,780 It's like a puddle. 52 00:02:15,980 --> 00:02:17,080 Pretty, pretty warm. 53 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:17,540 All right. 54 00:02:17,580 --> 00:02:19,300 790-2040 if you want to be part of the show. 55 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:23,380 Uh, let's take a moment to mention net neutrality. 56 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,120 Yeah. 57 00:02:24,220 --> 00:02:27,960 And, and for once it might be like a good. 58 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,660 Good conversation. 59 00:02:28,780 --> 00:02:28,920 Yeah. 60 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:31,480 Because normally when I talk about net neutrality, it's me. 61 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,340 There's scorn and, and fury and just come on. 62 00:02:38,260 --> 00:02:43,220 Uh, but, uh, maybe some good news potentially in the net neutrality world. 63 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:47,160 The, uh, the internet services are now classified as a utility. 64 00:02:47,620 --> 00:02:48,100 Yeah. 65 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:51,180 And that's, that's what we've been trying to get done for quite a while now. 66 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:51,580 Right. 67 00:02:51,620 --> 00:02:56,040 So we, I did a bunch of rants on, uh, net neutrality. 68 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,460 We'll probably throw one up in the. 69 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,860 There's already one up there. 70 00:02:58,940 --> 00:03:00,120 Rants in the YouTube section. 71 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:03,680 Um, which Rob manages that. 72 00:03:03,820 --> 00:03:09,400 So, uh, you know, golf clap to Rob for, you know, making sure that the, uh, the, uh, YouTube 73 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,040 channel is, is doing what it's supposed to be doing. 74 00:03:12,180 --> 00:03:14,860 By the way, if you have an opportunity to go over there and subscribe to us, cause it 75 00:03:14,860 --> 00:03:15,480 helps us out. 76 00:03:15,860 --> 00:03:19,680 Then you get to hear, uh, Mike's, you know, furious rants about net neutrality and other 77 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:19,900 stuff. 78 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Yeah. 79 00:03:20,460 --> 00:03:26,100 You know, and I listened to the Verizon one and, um, that was the second Verizon rant 80 00:03:26,100 --> 00:03:26,640 that I've had. 81 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,060 We got to go find the first one. 82 00:03:28,060 --> 00:03:29,440 Cause that's like season four or something. 83 00:03:29,580 --> 00:03:30,660 We're gonna have to go dig that up. 84 00:03:30,740 --> 00:03:35,780 That one is where I just exploded on air. 85 00:03:36,260 --> 00:03:38,500 It's really not, not cool. 86 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,660 Uh, we'll have to find one of those. 87 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,700 Um, but yeah, the net neutrality one from, uh, last season, last year is up there right 88 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:45,920 now. 89 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,500 So go check it out on our YouTube channel. 90 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:47,860 Right. 91 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,940 Then you can get sort of a background on what net neutrality is or is not, uh, at least 92 00:03:52,940 --> 00:03:55,020 from the perspective of people in technology. 93 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,900 Uh, I, there was a whole bunch of political spin. 94 00:03:58,060 --> 00:04:00,820 On it, uh, when it was actually happening. 95 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:04,020 Oh, and then, uh, that reminds me just to preview for you guys. 96 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,940 Next, next, the next excerpt that we're putting on YouTube is a throwback to act. 97 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,620 I remember act. 98 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Yeah. 99 00:04:09,220 --> 00:04:10,980 It's you talking about act in 2010. 100 00:04:12,020 --> 00:04:15,660 Oh, I think it was more vitriolic, but in 2010, it's a good one. 101 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,980 So that was a little more angry. 102 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,780 I'm trying to, I'm trying to give some color, you know, to the net neutrality stuff that 103 00:04:22,780 --> 00:04:23,260 we talk about. 104 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,680 So that's why I've been picking a few of those types of rants to put on there. 105 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Right on. 106 00:04:27,260 --> 00:04:27,600 Yeah. 107 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:27,780 Yeah. 108 00:04:27,780 --> 00:04:28,040 Yeah. 109 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 110 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 111 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 112 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 113 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 114 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 115 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 116 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 117 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 118 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,040 119 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,560 Check out the YouTube channel. 120 00:04:28,620 --> 00:04:32,120 You can listen to the net neutrality rant, but now it is finally classified as utility, 121 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:40,300 which is, uh, which is great because it allows for, uh, well, I guess the bigger, better 122 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:47,200 way of putting it is, is it disallows for the ISPs to prioritize packets based on pay. 123 00:04:47,660 --> 00:04:48,100 Yeah. 124 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,740 And it makes it to where everyone has equal access to internet the same way that people 125 00:04:52,740 --> 00:04:56,980 have access to indoor plumbing and electricity and, you know, those types of things. 126 00:04:57,140 --> 00:04:57,580 Right. 127 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,860 Um, and that's a, that's a good thing in my opinion. 128 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:03,000 Now, the, the, of course with, as with everything, there are some drawbacks to it. 129 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:09,640 Um, but, uh, for right now, I'm pretty happy with the outcome and perhaps in a couple of 130 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,320 episodes, maybe two weeks from now, we can talk a little bit more about what that really 131 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:19,000 means and explore the pros and the cons of net neutrality because it isn't a one-sided 132 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,280 issue. 133 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,700 It's not like the encryption debate, which is very, very one-sided. 134 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:28,020 Uh, it's, it's very much a, well, you know, there are some, some drawbacks to it. 135 00:05:28,020 --> 00:05:28,020 136 00:05:28,020 --> 00:05:28,020 137 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,780 And yeah, I mean, like you're saying, uh, it's very politicized, but there really are 138 00:05:31,780 --> 00:05:35,320 a couple of things that, I mean, the other side makes good points on, on a couple of 139 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:35,520 things. 140 00:05:35,900 --> 00:05:38,100 Overall, though, net neutrality, I think will be a benefit. 141 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:39,660 That's the goal. 142 00:05:39,820 --> 00:05:40,820 Let's go ahead and talk to Dave. 143 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:41,440 Hello, Dave. 144 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:41,940 How are you? 145 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:42,820 Okay. 146 00:05:42,940 --> 00:05:49,740 Um, I have a Windows 7 desktop and when I hit the button that says check for updates, 147 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:53,920 it just looks for updates and never, never gets anything done. 148 00:05:54,660 --> 00:05:55,040 Okay. 149 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,720 And then I went to the troubleshooting computer problems. 150 00:05:57,780 --> 00:05:58,020 Okay. 151 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,480 And it's got a button that says fix problems with Windows update. 152 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,660 And that just goes out there and never does it. 153 00:06:03,700 --> 00:06:07,760 It looks for stuff on the internet and it just keeps, you know, scrolling or whatever 154 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,800 and it never finishes. 155 00:06:09,220 --> 00:06:13,580 Do you have the little Windows 10 update logo down in the lower right-hand corner? 156 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:18,280 I, I knew you'd say that first answer, but is there a possibility that I can fix the 157 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,760 Windows 7 or is it, you're just going to make me go to 10? 158 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:25,720 No, what I'm saying is that the reason you're not getting updates is because it's waiting 159 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,420 for the 10 because that's installed. 160 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:32,000 Well, the end, what I mean is waiting for the 10. 161 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,500 So if you have the little flag icon down by your clock, that, that's like. 162 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,220 Well, I have a little thing down there that says get Windows 10. 163 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:40,100 Right. 164 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,040 All other updates are paused until you decide on that one. 165 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,900 It's basically saying you're going to get Windows 10 anyway, so there's no point in 166 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:47,880 installing these other upgrades. 167 00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:50,020 So what do I have to do then? 168 00:06:50,060 --> 00:06:54,940 So you either uninstall the 303 update that we've talked about in previous episodes. 169 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:55,880 Okay. 170 00:06:55,900 --> 00:06:57,040 I don't know what that is, but. 171 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:57,460 Okay. 172 00:06:57,460 --> 00:06:58,020 So if you go to the Windows 10, you're going to get Windows 10. 173 00:06:58,020 --> 00:07:03,960 If you go to add and remove programs, there is a button on the left where you can choose 174 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,500 to view installed updates. 175 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,260 Right. 176 00:07:07,540 --> 00:07:11,280 One of them is KB303, I think. 177 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:12,340 Yeah, it's 303 something. 178 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,160 It's the only 303 update that you'll have. 179 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:22,280 And if you uninstall that, that makes the Windows 10 upgrade icon go away and your updates 180 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,600 will resume as normal. 181 00:07:23,940 --> 00:07:28,000 But just know that as soon as you update, that 303 is going to go away. 182 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:28,340 It's coming back. 183 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,360 So you'll get one round of updates, and then it's going to be like, hey, it's time to get 184 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:32,720 Windows 10. 185 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,160 So they're making it harder for us to do this, is what you're saying. 186 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,520 They do not at all want you in Windows 7 anymore. 187 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:48,140 Well, for a guy who's been using the Windows menu ever since Windows came out, what's the 188 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,800 bad stuff about going to 10? 189 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Because I'm used to Windows 7 and its previous versions. 190 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,040 So... 191 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,000 There's not a huge difference. 192 00:07:58,020 --> 00:07:59,400 There's not a huge difference between 7 and 10. 193 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:04,640 Because for an old guy like me who's been using 7 and it's, like I say, forever, is it going 194 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,480 to be a big difference? 195 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:05,940 No. 196 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:06,600 No. 197 00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:08,880 The difference is relatively minor. 198 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:13,420 Now, it's not like going to Windows 8, which was a huge change for the interface. 199 00:08:13,780 --> 00:08:14,140 Right. 200 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:20,420 So I think they heard a little bit of the feedback there and decided that they'll go 201 00:08:20,420 --> 00:08:23,100 back to an interface that's more similar to 7. 202 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,440 And I think that's a lot of the confusion that people have, and that's why they don't 203 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:26,940 want to go to 10. 204 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,000 That's because they think it's Windows 10. 205 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,080 It's Windows 8. 206 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,360 But it's not. 207 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:33,960 Well, will all my programs still work on 10, or is there something that's not going to 208 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:34,180 work? 209 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,780 As with any upgrade, there is the opportunity for things to not work. 210 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,300 Right. 211 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,920 But I have not seen any problems that I have found to be... 212 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:48,100 I haven't found any insurmountable problems. 213 00:08:48,540 --> 00:08:48,980 Okay. 214 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:54,860 All the software that I've run across so far, we've either been able to make it work, or 215 00:08:54,860 --> 00:08:57,020 it might require an update of some type. 216 00:08:57,380 --> 00:08:57,820 Okay. 217 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,220 But don't fear that part of it. 218 00:09:00,260 --> 00:09:04,560 The only thing that you really have to fear is, as usual with all versions of Windows 219 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:06,080 for upgrades, is scanners and printers. 220 00:09:07,060 --> 00:09:07,540 Right. 221 00:09:07,780 --> 00:09:13,760 So if you have a really old printer or a really old scanner, it's very likely that those won't 222 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:13,980 work. 223 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,400 But there will be a new driver out there somewhere to make it work? 224 00:09:17,740 --> 00:09:18,220 Sometimes. 225 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Sometimes. 226 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Right. 227 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,740 A lot of times, though, whenever you do major Windows version updates, you get a new printer 228 00:09:24,740 --> 00:09:26,520 is how that works. 229 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:27,420 Right. 230 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:27,860 Right. 231 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 232 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 233 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 234 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 235 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 236 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 237 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 238 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 239 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 240 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 241 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 242 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 243 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 244 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:27,980 245 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,320 So if I have all my internet stuff, that'll still all work. 246 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,200 All that stuff's going to work. 247 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:32,040 Okay. 248 00:09:32,420 --> 00:09:32,780 Yeah. 249 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,020 So don't sweat that part a whole lot. 250 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:37,540 Well, like I say, I've feared the unknown for too long. 251 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,420 Maybe I should go to 10. 252 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,540 Well, you don't have a choice. 253 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,300 You're going to 10 whether you like it or not. 254 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:42,960 Yeah. 255 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,640 So, I mean, you can delay it for right now. 256 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:52,240 You can uninstall that 303 update, get the latest round of critical updates, but it's 257 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,060 going to push you into 10. 258 00:09:53,140 --> 00:09:56,380 And by the end of July, that's the deadline. 259 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,800 They're going to keep pushing harder. 260 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,120 It's going to get harder and harder until that point. 261 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,800 Now, if you decide to hold out past the end of July, so let's say that August 1st shows 262 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,820 up and you have not upgraded to 10, that upgrade window goes away. 263 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,960 You'll start getting regular critical updates, but you'll no longer get optional updates 264 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:14,540 of any type. 265 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,620 And you get to stay. 266 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:21,960 You get to hang out in Windows 7 for as long as you like. 267 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,920 But just know that the opportunity to upgrade for free ends at the end of July. 268 00:10:27,140 --> 00:10:27,520 Right. 269 00:10:28,620 --> 00:10:28,940 Okay. 270 00:10:28,980 --> 00:10:30,620 Well, I guess I have to think about that. 271 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:31,760 What do I want to do here then? 272 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:32,600 All right. 273 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:33,620 Well, thanks for the call, Dave. 274 00:10:33,780 --> 00:10:34,460 Well, thank you. 275 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:35,440 Have a nice day. 276 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:36,000 Bye. 277 00:10:36,300 --> 00:10:38,000 Let's take a moment to mention our sponsor. 278 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,220 That would be Perfection Auto Works. 279 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:42,800 You can go to their website. 280 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:43,280 It's new. 281 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,400 PerfectionAutoWorks.com. 282 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,440 Well, is it still new? 283 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:46,540 We've been saying that for six months. 284 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,880 Well, I mean, based on how long they had their old site. 285 00:10:49,220 --> 00:10:49,940 Yeah, it's new. 286 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,400 It's still new. 287 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:51,480 PerfectionAutoWorks.com. 288 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,000 Go check it out. 289 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:54,500 Get your 26-point inspection for free. 290 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,860 I'm sure that your car will love you for it, especially right now. 291 00:10:58,740 --> 00:11:01,580 Yeah, assuming that your tires don't literally melt off of your car. 292 00:11:02,140 --> 00:11:03,460 Take it down to Perfection Auto Works. 293 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,720 The temperature is too darn high. 294 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,920 It's hot. 295 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:08,460 Holy moly. 296 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,100 We'll be right back. 297 00:11:09,140 --> 00:11:14,000 Listen to their ad coming up next, and we will listen to your phone calls right after this break. 298 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,240 790-2040. 299 00:11:15,340 --> 00:11:15,860 We'll be right back. 300 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:27,900 Your computer guru, Mike Swanson, is here to help you tame that beast of a machine. 301 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,800 Join the chat right now at gurushow.com or call in. 302 00:11:31,860 --> 00:11:35,340 This is the Computer Guru Show on KVOY, The Voice. 303 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,840 I'm dirty and the extreme and lighter than sour cream. 304 00:11:40,020 --> 00:11:43,160 I was in a B-Club and Glee Club and even the chess team. 305 00:11:43,260 --> 00:11:44,840 Only question I ever thought was hard. 306 00:11:44,940 --> 00:11:46,520 What do I like, Kirk, or do I like Picard? 307 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:48,540 Spend every weekend at the Renaissance Fair. 308 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:49,740 Got my name on my underwear. 309 00:11:50,860 --> 00:11:52,940 Wow, that's a trip down memory lane. 310 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,040 To like the other day when I was just playing that in my house. 311 00:11:56,060 --> 00:11:56,500 No, I know. 312 00:11:56,580 --> 00:11:57,520 I'm talking about how... 313 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,420 Using that as bumper music. 314 00:11:59,660 --> 00:12:00,820 Yeah, I miss those days. 315 00:12:00,940 --> 00:12:03,840 It hasn't been on the show in years. 316 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,580 In yas, I tell ya. 317 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:06,080 Yas. 318 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:07,520 Yes, eons and stuff. 319 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,560 All right, if you'd like to be a part of the show, 790-2040, give us a call. 320 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,260 Let's go ahead and talk to Charles. 321 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:13,800 Hello, Charles. 322 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:14,880 Hello. 323 00:12:15,740 --> 00:12:18,840 Boy, I love that Batman spot with Kazachik in the trunk. 324 00:12:19,380 --> 00:12:19,780 What? 325 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,980 Oh, yeah, during the commercial break? 326 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Yeah. 327 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:25,460 Anyway, I still laugh. 328 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,640 I'm looking for a machine. 329 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:30,420 I'm not saying this to irritate you. 330 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,380 I'm looking for a machine that runs XP because I don't... 331 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,460 I like the way it's far more user-friendly than Windows 7, 332 00:12:39,580 --> 00:12:44,120 which I just spent $200 getting my computer back from service fixing. 333 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,400 And I'm betting that an XP machine will be cheap to buy if I could find one. 334 00:12:50,540 --> 00:12:54,900 It's not going on the Internet, so I'm not worried about all the vulnerabilities on it. 335 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,500 And it's going to be used almost solely... 336 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,040 It's going to be used solely for production in Adobe Audition for things actually just 337 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,280 like that Batman spot, which was made on an XP machine. 338 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:07,320 Okay. 339 00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:12,740 So can you direct me to a place? 340 00:13:12,820 --> 00:13:15,620 Or do you have one that's like sitting in the back with dust on it? 341 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,660 I was going to say, you might start checking like dumpsters and those kinds of things. 342 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Doorstops. 343 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:23,880 Well, there's always the swap shop, but I mean, you know, which I may do. 344 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,940 But the point of the matter is, is that I'm looking for... 345 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:32,240 One that maybe you used as a test bed for something, or it's been sitting indoors, not outdoors. 346 00:13:32,580 --> 00:13:34,780 You know, because it's expired technology. 347 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,600 I get it. 348 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,660 But I like... 349 00:13:36,660 --> 00:13:43,700 Or is there a way to make Windows 7 work and look more like XP so that it's more user-friendly? 350 00:13:43,860 --> 00:13:47,760 I mean, for instance, you go to save something in Word and you have to save it to your computer. 351 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,380 It won't even let you open it without saving it first to your computer. 352 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,980 There's dumb stuff like that in 7 that was never true in XP. 353 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,760 Actually, that's still true. 354 00:13:56,940 --> 00:13:57,660 That's always true. 355 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,020 The whole, you know, you can't open something unless it exists. 356 00:14:01,180 --> 00:14:03,940 So it does save it to your computer first before it opens it. 357 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,500 Oh, it just did it in the background before. 358 00:14:06,500 --> 00:14:07,720 It puts it in a temp folder. 359 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,040 And 7 does the same thing. 360 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:10,620 So there's... 361 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:18,300 I think there's a whole lot of like, we should just sit down sometime and I can just show you that it works the way that XP does. 362 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,360 The only difference is they added a security layer that doesn't allow you to save to the root. 363 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:24,540 Right? 364 00:14:24,580 --> 00:14:25,000 So... 365 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,360 But for the most part... 366 00:14:26,940 --> 00:14:28,960 XP and 7 are very, very similar. 367 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:30,380 Okay. 368 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:37,080 Well, but the thing about it is if I have a machine, if I buy a machine that has expired technology, it costs a lot less. 369 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:40,280 I like to buy the things that other people don't want. 370 00:14:40,420 --> 00:14:42,480 That was probably true maybe five years ago. 371 00:14:43,460 --> 00:14:49,960 But right now there's a premium on XP machines because if you're buying an XP machine, it's because you need an XP machine. 372 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:51,440 And they know it. 373 00:14:52,220 --> 00:14:54,500 However, they are available out there on like eBay. 374 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:55,500 Craigslist. 375 00:14:55,660 --> 00:14:56,000 Craigslist. 376 00:14:56,140 --> 00:14:56,640 I wouldn't... 377 00:14:56,940 --> 00:14:59,540 I don't like buying computers off Craigslist, but eBay is okay. 378 00:15:00,220 --> 00:15:04,320 I like buying it from somebody I know, like, and trust, like yourself. 379 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:12,540 And so if you've got one or someone you know of that you trust that has machines like that, I'd be open to that. 380 00:15:12,740 --> 00:15:13,640 You know, because I'm... 381 00:15:14,140 --> 00:15:16,220 I'd much rather buy that locally than... 382 00:15:16,220 --> 00:15:18,860 And again, from somebody that I know, like, and trust. 383 00:15:18,940 --> 00:15:19,860 I know somebody has a good... 384 00:15:19,860 --> 00:15:26,220 You'll have to call the office down at 304-8300 because I don't keep track of the old machine inventory. 385 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:27,040 Right. 386 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,520 I'm out fixing things. 387 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Right. 388 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:34,600 But, you know, you can talk to Howard or Carl and they can let you know what they've got there. 389 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:38,020 You could also potentially explore an XP virtual machine. 390 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Right. 391 00:15:39,060 --> 00:15:40,220 You could virtualize a machine. 392 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:41,540 Okay. 393 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Right. 394 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:46,280 But basically, I want a computer that's kept off the Internet. 395 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,040 It's just used for mostly one purpose, making radio commercials. 396 00:15:51,340 --> 00:15:54,540 And, you know, and then the sneaker drive. 397 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,920 Take the USB thing and stick it in. 398 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:56,920 399 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:56,920 400 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:56,920 401 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:56,920 402 00:15:56,940 --> 00:15:58,240 Take it in the other machine and archive it. 403 00:15:58,380 --> 00:15:59,040 So that... 404 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,480 And that's the machine that gets on the Internet. 405 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,360 That, I have, you know, the most current stuff on. 406 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:02,540 Right. 407 00:16:02,540 --> 00:16:06,540 So you could do something similar with, like, if you have a nice newer computer. 408 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:07,500 Yeah. 409 00:16:07,580 --> 00:16:13,480 You could virtualize a copy of XP that would be its own standalone machine inside the other one, 410 00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:14,660 which doesn't get on the Internet. 411 00:16:15,420 --> 00:16:17,640 And you guys would be willing to build one of those for me? 412 00:16:17,780 --> 00:16:18,060 Of course. 413 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Okay. 414 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,040 Maybe we should talk. 415 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,360 Of course we should talk. 416 00:16:22,580 --> 00:16:25,440 I don't know where you took your computer to get it fixed before, but I'm offended. 417 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:35,900 Well, somebody who has, who about six generations ago had the computer show on the station. 418 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,660 Oh, okay. 419 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:37,900 It's a trusted guy. 420 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:38,340 All right. 421 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:39,020 You want me to say his name? 422 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,960 I don't care. 423 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Go for it, Todd. 424 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:42,780 Dave Mason. 425 00:16:42,940 --> 00:16:43,300 Oh. 426 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,580 Yeah, I like Dave. 427 00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:49,660 Dave is a friend, and so, and I've done business with him for years, so I just, and again, 428 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,040 I know, like, and trust him. 429 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:52,300 Tell Dave to give me a call sometime. 430 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,440 And give the shop a call. 431 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,840 They can get you set up with a virtual machine. 432 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:55,340 Yeah. 433 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:55,880 I will. 434 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:56,920 All right. 435 00:16:56,940 --> 00:16:57,920 Thanks for the call, Charles. 436 00:16:57,940 --> 00:16:58,220 That's what I should. 437 00:16:58,340 --> 00:16:59,400 You do a wonderful show. 438 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,220 You should expand it. 439 00:17:00,380 --> 00:17:01,000 I should, huh? 440 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Yeah, you should. 441 00:17:02,380 --> 00:17:02,980 You should really think about it. 442 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:03,100 I might. 443 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,120 I'll think about it. 444 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:04,800 I'll let you know. 445 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:04,940 All right. 446 00:17:04,940 --> 00:17:05,180 See you. 447 00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:05,520 Bye. 448 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,020 Bye. 449 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:08,760 Do you want to take this other call? 450 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,260 Yeah, let's go ahead and take it. 451 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:11,060 Let's go ahead and talk to Tom. 452 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:11,520 Hello, Tom. 453 00:17:11,580 --> 00:17:11,980 How are you? 454 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:12,360 Hi. 455 00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:13,560 Thanks for taking my call. 456 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,660 Hey, I'm getting ready to upgrade to 10, and I'm looking at my uninstall a change program 457 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:19,440 area. 458 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Right. 459 00:17:20,580 --> 00:17:23,640 There's a couple programs I wanted to ask you about, if I should remove them before 460 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,120 I do that. 461 00:17:25,340 --> 00:17:25,980 All right. 462 00:17:25,980 --> 00:17:26,060 Yes. 463 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,120 Okay. 464 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,340 How about like Pulse Secure Setup Client? 465 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,320 I don't think that'll matter. 466 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,140 Do you know what that is? 467 00:17:33,580 --> 00:17:34,660 Not off the top of my head, no. 468 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,080 But I haven't heard anything about anything like that. 469 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,640 The stuff that's important is, do you have the NVIDIA Experience software installed? 470 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:43,680 No. 471 00:17:43,780 --> 00:17:44,200 No. 472 00:17:44,420 --> 00:17:53,320 It basically comes down to antivirus and NVIDIA software and things like firewalls. 473 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:55,760 Does the ATI equivalent make any difference? 474 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:56,640 Yeah. 475 00:17:56,740 --> 00:17:57,820 I would pull that off, too. 476 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,380 Crossfire, all that. 477 00:17:58,420 --> 00:17:58,600 Yeah. 478 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,300 So if you have ATI software on there for your video card, anything that's video card related, 479 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,080 just pull it. 480 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Okay. 481 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,700 How about Malwarebytes? 482 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:05,740 Malwarebytes can stay. 483 00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:06,700 Okay. 484 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,060 And Google Chrome and- 485 00:18:09,060 --> 00:18:09,280 Yeah. 486 00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:09,960 That's all fine. 487 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:10,960 Chromecraft. 488 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:11,400 Okay. 489 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,120 Great. 490 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,320 Yeah. 491 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,100 Mostly the stuff that we're concerned about is if it directly interfaces with hardware, 492 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:24,420 like antivirus directly interfaces with your network card, and your video software directly 493 00:18:24,420 --> 00:18:25,580 interfaces with your video card. 494 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:25,960 Yeah. 495 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:25,960 496 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,160 So we're looking for things that directly interface with hardware that should be removed. 497 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,280 That way, when it does the upgrade, it finds the proper versions, puts them on itself during 498 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,280 the upgrade, and then you can reinstall whatever you took off. 499 00:18:39,540 --> 00:18:41,560 So my printer driver then, take that off? 500 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,440 Now most printer drivers are not a problem. 501 00:18:44,580 --> 00:18:45,700 What kind of printer do you have? 502 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:46,540 HP. 503 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:47,080 Yeah. 504 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,320 HPs aren't going to be an issue. 505 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:54,520 We've seen some issues with Epson's, because the Epson's are ... Those are some crazy drivers 506 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,340 they put on those things. 507 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,420 But the HP ones seem to be fine. 508 00:18:57,940 --> 00:18:58,300 Okay. 509 00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:58,720 Great. 510 00:18:58,820 --> 00:18:59,280 Thanks a lot. 511 00:18:59,480 --> 00:18:59,760 All right. 512 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:00,580 Thanks for the call, Tom. 513 00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:01,980 Yeah. 514 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:03,980 Just be careful when you're doing your upgrade. 515 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,200 You know, I can't wait until it's like a year from now and Windows 10 has been embraced 516 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,400 and everybody's fine with it again. 517 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:11,240 Yeah. 518 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,980 Well, this is the last version, according to Microsoft. 519 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:14,240 Yeah. 520 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,220 It's the final version. 521 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:15,700 All right. 522 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,220 And people have been asking me that, and I guess we should probably cover it. 523 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,440 They're like, so I'll just wait for the next one. 524 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,800 I'm like, there is no next one. 525 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:24,400 Yeah. 526 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,380 I mean, in a manner of speaking. 527 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,300 Ten years from now, it's going to be way different than Windows 10. 528 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,200 Right. 529 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,200 But they're going the Mac route, which is sort of the evolution of a singular platform. 530 00:19:35,780 --> 00:19:37,820 I hope they give them better names than Mac does, though. 531 00:19:38,580 --> 00:19:38,900 Yeah. 532 00:19:39,020 --> 00:19:39,820 I don't know. 533 00:19:39,820 --> 00:19:42,060 El Capitan and Yosemite. 534 00:19:42,060 --> 00:19:44,360 Well, the new one is called Sierra. 535 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,240 Sierra. 536 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:45,660 Which is kind of a nice name. 537 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:46,320 That's not bad, I guess. 538 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:46,540 Yeah. 539 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,160 But Snow Leopard? 540 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,140 Come on. 541 00:19:50,540 --> 00:19:53,880 Anyway, so there is no next version, in a manner of speaking. 542 00:19:54,020 --> 00:19:54,380 Yeah. 543 00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:54,380 544 00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:54,380 545 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:04,400 So, just like Mac OS X, which came out 12 years ago, is still sort of the thing, even 546 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,020 though they refuse to call it OS X now. 547 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,760 Yeah. 548 00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:15,620 It's been effectively a slow, gradual, minor upgrade process over the number of years. 549 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:20,500 And that's what Microsoft is planning to do now, is that they're going to get everybody 550 00:20:20,500 --> 00:20:20,980 on 10. 551 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:21,440 Yeah. 552 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,380 And then they're going to do like, you know, 10 point whatever. 553 00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:25,060 Right? 554 00:20:25,220 --> 00:20:28,580 There should not be an 11 in the future. 555 00:20:28,780 --> 00:20:32,420 And ultimately, you know, I know that a lot of people are hostile to the Windows 10 upgrade, 556 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,960 and it's kind of, you know, it's bad how they're forcing it on people. 557 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,200 But it's because of security concerns. 558 00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:39,680 You know, 7 is very old at this point. 559 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,360 Yep. 560 00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:42,620 Everybody's like, but I love me some 7. 561 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,040 Or in Charles' case, I love me some XP. 562 00:20:45,780 --> 00:20:49,040 I can't wait until there's some guy who calls in and is like, I'm trying to run a Windows 563 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,720 3 machine. 564 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,020 I need a machine that only runs DOS. 565 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,360 We've got to get it. 566 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 567 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 568 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 569 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 570 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 571 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 572 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 573 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 574 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 575 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 576 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 577 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 578 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 579 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:54,360 580 00:20:54,380 --> 00:21:00,000 We had one of those that came into the shop recently where the newest software he could 581 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,780 run on there was 98. 582 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,300 I think I remember that because I really wanted to, I was like, can we just take an extra 583 00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:07,360 day so I can put Doom 98 on this and play it? 584 00:21:07,460 --> 00:21:09,340 The techs were like, no, go away. 585 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,520 And see, this is one of those problems. 586 00:21:11,820 --> 00:21:15,220 We tell people, you don't do the bleeding edge upgrades. 587 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,280 Don't do the like, upgrade immediately as soon as it's out there because you're going 588 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:21,720 to hurt yourself. 589 00:21:22,140 --> 00:21:22,520 Right? 590 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:29,200 So at the same time, if you wait too long, if you get to the point where Windows XP is 591 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:35,820 still on your machine and it's been completely unserviceable by Microsoft for seven years, 592 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,840 you've painted yourself into an upgrade corner. 593 00:21:39,020 --> 00:21:40,500 You can't upgrade at that point. 594 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,900 So before your upgrade ability expires, you should upgrade. 595 00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:49,320 Not to mention that the upgrade shock that people get where they're like, Windows 10 596 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,300 is just so much different. 597 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,000 That happens because you don't upgrade. 598 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,120 If you're on XP and then you jump to Windows 10, yeah, it's way different. 599 00:21:55,380 --> 00:21:55,540 Right. 600 00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:57,280 It's a huge difference if you're going from XP. 601 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,320 However, if you did like most of us did, which is you went to seven, then you went to eight, 602 00:22:03,340 --> 00:22:06,760 and then you went back to seven, then you went to 10, yeah, it's not that big of a deal. 603 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,800 You forgot Vista and that whole thing. 604 00:22:11,020 --> 00:22:12,360 We shall not name it. 605 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:13,660 We don't speak that name here. 606 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,420 There's two operating systems we don't say, Vista and Millennium. 607 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,100 Yeah, I was going to say. 608 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,860 Yeah, those don't exist. 609 00:22:21,620 --> 00:22:21,980 Yeah. 610 00:22:21,980 --> 00:22:24,740 There's just terrible, terrible pieces of software. 611 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,480 Oh, that's just gross. 612 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,880 I can't believe you mentioned that on the show. 613 00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:33,100 Vista made us appreciate seven even more. 614 00:22:33,180 --> 00:22:33,860 Is that what it is? 615 00:22:33,980 --> 00:22:34,100 Yeah. 616 00:22:34,860 --> 00:22:36,740 Give us a call, 790-2040. 617 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:37,660 We'll be right back. 618 00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:51,280 Whether you're dealing with hardware installation or heaven forbid, a virus. 619 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:51,500 Oh. 620 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:51,960 I'm sorry. 621 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 622 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 623 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 624 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 625 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 626 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 627 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 628 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 629 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 630 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 631 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 632 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 633 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 634 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 635 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 636 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 637 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 638 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 639 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:51,960 640 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,380 No. 641 00:22:52,380 --> 00:22:52,680 No. 642 00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:56,440 Mike Swanson is answering all your questions one by one. 643 00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:58,560 So call in or chat in with yours. 644 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,080 The website gurushow.com. 645 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,680 Tune in, click in and kick back. 646 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:08,700 This is the Computer Guru Show on AM1030 KVOY The Voice. 647 00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:21,900 Mike Swanson, your computer guru, is just a click away. 648 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:21,940 649 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:21,940 650 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:21,940 651 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:21,940 652 00:23:21,940 --> 00:23:24,500 Listen and watch at gurushow.com. 653 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,680 This is the Computer Guru Show. 654 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,500 Welcome to my world. 655 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:30,020 Welcome back to the Computer Guru Show. 656 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:34,140 My name's Mike, here to deal with your technology needs and treat you like a person in the process. 657 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,720 790-2040 if you want to be a part of the show. 658 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,440 What do you think? 659 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:39,100 Calls first or? 660 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:39,820 Yeah, I might as well. 661 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:40,060 Yeah. 662 00:23:40,060 --> 00:23:40,200 All right. 663 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,960 Let's go ahead and talk to Dave. 664 00:23:41,140 --> 00:23:41,660 Hey, Dave. 665 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:42,000 How are you? 666 00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:43,300 Okay. 667 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:44,080 How are you? 668 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,760 Lovely. 669 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,920 Well, a few months ago or like three months ago or so, I upgraded from 8.1 to 1.2. 670 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:51,920 671 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:51,920 672 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:51,920 673 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:51,920 674 00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:52,460 I'm using Windows 10. 675 00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:53,540 Okay. 676 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,580 And it is awful. 677 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:56,940 How so? 678 00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,080 Everything is so unbelievably slow. 679 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,640 I click onto a browser window, it takes like a minute or two to even open it. 680 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:08,100 It just sits there and you look at the screen, nothing happens. 681 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:09,440 Which antivirus do you have on there? 682 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,720 My browser's always crashing, everything. 683 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,380 What's that? 684 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:13,660 Which antivirus do you have on there? 685 00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:16,020 Kaspersky. 686 00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:17,260 Okay. 687 00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:18,720 That's your answer. 688 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,820 So you upgraded with the antivirus on there already. 689 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:21,920 Yeah. 690 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:21,920 691 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:21,920 692 00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:22,420 I have that already I imagine. 693 00:24:23,620 --> 00:24:28,300 Not to mention that first of all, don't upgrade with your antivirus installed because it causes 694 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:29,180 major problems. 695 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,500 I got it uninstalled before the upgrade. 696 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,640 Secondly. 697 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,640 Oh, I did that. 698 00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:33,200 I did that. 699 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,480 Secondly, Kaspersky. 700 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,040 Because it says that on the install. 701 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:36,820 You have to disable it. 702 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,240 So I disabled it. 703 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,000 I upgraded it and then I re-enabled it. 704 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,080 This is not disable. 705 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:42,400 This is uninstall. 706 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,280 Like take it completely off the computer before you upgrade. 707 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,180 Now, second part of this. 708 00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:51,080 Kaspersky is a dog. 709 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,920 Okay. 710 00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:53,500 It's a great antivirus, don't get me wrong. 711 00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:55,180 It's a fantastic antivirus. 712 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,960 But it makes everything slow. 713 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:01,900 Now, I think that yours is mostly slow because it got broken during the upgrade. 714 00:25:02,420 --> 00:25:09,620 So if you were to completely uninstall Kaspersky, use a utility like Revo or something to help you uninstall that. 715 00:25:09,980 --> 00:25:13,460 And then reinstall Kaspersky, it will probably be considerably better. 716 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,480 Second, what kind of machine is this? 717 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:17,340 It's a Toshiba. 718 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,420 How old is it? 719 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,660 Laptop, two years old. 720 00:25:20,860 --> 00:25:21,660 Like two? Okay. 721 00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:32,540 So if it is less than two years old or less than three years old, then you should be fine as far as hard drive and all of that is concerned. 722 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,300 So I'd imagine completely uninstall any antivirus apps that you have. 723 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:40,680 And here's the reason why it jacks things up. 724 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:46,400 When you do the upgrade, Windows is sort of blind to your antivirus setup. 725 00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:51,060 So it assumes that it needs to enable its built-in antivirus. 726 00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:51,920 It's called Defender. 727 00:25:51,940 --> 00:25:52,040 Defender. 728 00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:53,260 Okay. 729 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,820 And so whenever you have two antiviruses on a machine, oh, believe me, they don't get along. 730 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:03,380 And so everything gets very, very slow. 731 00:26:04,420 --> 00:26:05,860 So uninstall the antivirus. 732 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:09,320 And when you do that, it's going to say, hey, guess what? 733 00:26:09,380 --> 00:26:10,340 We've turned on Defender. 734 00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:11,420 Defender's all happy. 735 00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:12,740 Everything's great. 736 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,900 Then you install Kaspersky, and Kaspersky will disable Defender. 737 00:26:16,980 --> 00:26:18,140 And everything should be better. 738 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,360 Okay. 739 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,920 Now, you could choose a lighter antivirus. 740 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:33,220 We don't particularly care for the sort of heavy, slow, basically the antiviruses that you have to pay for that just slow your machine down. 741 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,360 So you could pick something lighter if you want. 742 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:42,360 But if you're happy with Kaspersky and that's what you want to use, then by all means continue to do so. 743 00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:48,060 But use something like Revo to utterly annihilate Kaspersky off the machine. 744 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,280 Okay. 745 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:49,540 Okay. 746 00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:50,040 Yeah. 747 00:26:50,140 --> 00:26:51,860 Well, we have Kaspersky on all of our. 748 00:26:51,940 --> 00:26:53,040 So we got like a. 749 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,020 Yeah, everybody usually gets the home pack, and they put it on everything. 750 00:26:57,140 --> 00:27:01,440 You will notice a dramatic difference in speed just by uninstalling Kaspersky. 751 00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:02,940 Okay. 752 00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:04,960 So give that a shot and let me know. 753 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:05,960 Thank you. 754 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,380 All right. 755 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:07,840 All right. 756 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,660 Let's go ahead and talk to Tom. 757 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:09,940 Tom, how are you? 758 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:10,620 Hi. 759 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:10,840 Hey. 760 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,260 I got a question regarding viruses upgrading to 10 virus protectors. 761 00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:16,700 Yep. 762 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:18,620 What about Microsoft Security Essentials? 763 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,220 All antivirus. 764 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,860 If it's antivirus, uninstall it. 765 00:27:20,980 --> 00:27:21,320 Okay. 766 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:21,920 So uninstall it. 767 00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:23,520 Uninstall Microsoft Security Essentials. 768 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:23,760 Yep. 769 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,400 Because Essentials is actually a dead product as of Windows 7. 770 00:27:27,540 --> 00:27:29,120 It's the last version it works on. 771 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:30,620 Uh-huh. 772 00:27:30,740 --> 00:27:32,460 So, yeah, uninstall it. 773 00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:33,580 Do your upgrade. 774 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,000 You don't have to reinstall Essentials because Defender's built in, which is the replacement 775 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,820 for Essentials. 776 00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:38,940 The new version. 777 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,080 Okay. 778 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:43,820 So uninstall Microsoft Security Essentials first, and we'll get Defender when we upgrade. 779 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,340 Correct. 780 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,620 Thank you very much. 781 00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:46,660 My pleasure. 782 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,260 That was quick and easy. 783 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,820 That's a lot of Windows 10 questions today. 784 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:51,920 Yeah. 785 00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:52,080 Yeah. 786 00:27:52,580 --> 00:27:52,980 Yeah. 787 00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:54,460 Well, you know, the deadline is coming up. 788 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,160 We need to just start telling people, switch to Linux. 789 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,020 That won't confuse anyone at all. 790 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,980 We did that for a while, though. 791 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:06,800 When the 8 upgrade, when 8 first came out, we were like, you know what? 792 00:28:07,380 --> 00:28:08,000 Screw this. 793 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,700 Let's go to Linux. 794 00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:10,040 Everybody use Linux now. 795 00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:10,600 Nah. 796 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,980 Real power users just code their own operating systems, Mike. 797 00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:13,460 Oh, yeah. 798 00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:13,980 Yeah. 799 00:28:14,220 --> 00:28:15,320 Real power users. 800 00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:16,020 Yep. 801 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,180 Manipulate the hard drive with magnets. 802 00:28:19,780 --> 00:28:20,180 Right. 803 00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:21,520 You know, rather than actually writing any code. 804 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:21,920 Right. 805 00:28:21,940 --> 00:28:23,420 You gotta open a port and just suck it. 806 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,460 Have you ever watched, Kent, have you ever watched 24, the Jack Bauer show? 807 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,340 Did you ever see that? 808 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,620 No, I have not. 809 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,040 It's worth it to watch just for the tech speak. 810 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,920 Yeah, just the way they talk about computers. 811 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:38,800 I'll check it out. 812 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,360 It's... 813 00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:41,080 Open up a port on that firewall. 814 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:41,760 Patch me through. 815 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:42,500 That's right. 816 00:28:42,980 --> 00:28:43,360 There's... 817 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,040 It's open up a socket. 818 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:47,300 My terminal needs a socket opened. 819 00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:48,560 And... 820 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:48,740 It... 821 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,920 The stuff that really... 822 00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:55,820 The stuff that really killed me about that show is that, you know, anytime that I watch 823 00:28:55,820 --> 00:29:01,120 any show where there's technology involved, there's so much just like, oh, that's not how 824 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,600 that works. 825 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,360 You know? 826 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:02,980 And... 827 00:29:02,980 --> 00:29:04,520 But, you know, I try to be good about it. 828 00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:05,180 I'm quiet. 829 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,340 I don't say anything generally. 830 00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:14,540 But that show just repeated basically two phrases throughout the whole thing, which 831 00:29:14,540 --> 00:29:16,880 was, I'm going to need you to trust me. 832 00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:20,660 Which was said like every other dialogue. 833 00:29:20,660 --> 00:29:21,940 Every other dialogue sequence. 834 00:29:22,740 --> 00:29:26,180 And then we're going to have to get them to open up a socket. 835 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,320 And first of all, you don't open sockets. 836 00:29:29,820 --> 00:29:30,840 That's not how that works. 837 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,200 The best one of all time is on that show, NCIS, when the two people, to use the computer 838 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,540 faster, they're typing on the same keyboard at the same time. 839 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,800 It's so dumb. 840 00:29:43,980 --> 00:29:44,700 Oh, man. 841 00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:49,420 Everybody knows that, like, when we need to hack faster, we just get more people on the 842 00:29:49,420 --> 00:29:49,980 same keyboard. 843 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:50,640 It's like 12 people. 844 00:29:50,660 --> 00:29:50,980 Yep. 845 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:55,120 That's actually how all these hacks happen, is they have like 80 people typing on one 846 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,420 keyboard. 847 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,440 The speed, you can't even comprehend. 848 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaking of hacks, did anybody hear that the DNC got hacked? 849 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,700 Big time. 850 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,560 Heard that. 851 00:30:05,740 --> 00:30:06,000 Yeah. 852 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680 That's a pretty interesting story. 853 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,000 There's a lot going on there. 854 00:30:12,140 --> 00:30:14,080 And all of it is really, really quiet. 855 00:30:15,260 --> 00:30:15,960 Imagine that. 856 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:16,780 Imagine that. 857 00:30:16,780 --> 00:30:17,780 Imagine the fact that the... 858 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Basically, the highest... 859 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:20,640 The highest... 860 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,880 The echelons of the government are being really quiet about a gigantic hack. 861 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:35,760 And, of course, the government is blaming Russian spies, which is, I think, great that 862 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:41,320 they're blaming them, especially when the hacker came back and he's like, uh, no. 863 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,060 And he's not at all a Russian spy of any kind. 864 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:44,400 Yeah. 865 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,320 Not a Russian spy. 866 00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:49,280 And then, of course, they said this, you know, they identified the... 867 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360 This particular thing and, you know, the hack. 868 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:56,860 And they shut it down because, you know, because they're on top of things, technologically speaking. 869 00:30:58,540 --> 00:31:01,920 And basically, the hacker came back and started taunting them. 870 00:31:02,420 --> 00:31:04,980 And he's like, you didn't know I was in there. 871 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,380 And so they said, well, yeah, well, we know that he only had access to a couple of things. 872 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,820 And so he came back and he said, I was in your system for a year. 873 00:31:14,980 --> 00:31:16,480 You think I downloaded two things? 874 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,500 Do you really think that? 875 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,740 Is that what you think? 876 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,180 And, yeah, it's pretty gnarly. 877 00:31:24,420 --> 00:31:27,600 Some pretty crazy stuff has come out as a result of this hack. 878 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:31,740 Yeah, like a list of mega donors to the DNC, a... 879 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,780 Complete strategy for their campaign. 880 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,500 Right. 881 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:41,340 And the most interesting part is, at least to me, and this is definitely not a regular 882 00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:45,960 show topic here, is that there sure is a lot of... 883 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,260 There's a lot of collusion going on behind the scenes. 884 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:51,220 There's a lot ofSure. 885 00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:54,180 There's a lot of collaboration between different sides of the conversation. 886 00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:54,960 And I think that's part of the reward of the investigation. 887 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:54,960 888 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:54,960 889 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,980 I've not run into an instance where I think something about one candidate that 890 00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:03,780 undoubtedly isn't true about another. 891 00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:14,640 So it's very interesting to me that there's an active push years in advance for who's 892 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,340 going to be the next president of the United States. 893 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,240 And the thing that really kills me about this that I've mentioned a couple of 894 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,300 times now is that how are we supposed to trust these people to protect our security and our 895 00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:28,200 privacy when they can't even protect their own right and they're the ones calling for weaker 896 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,320 you know encryption they're like yeah that's the ironic thing is that if they had had strong 897 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:39,560 encryption on their own equipment this could not have happened yeah who knows man they're just 898 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,380 oh they're just dumb this is you know it's like when when a kid puts his hand on the stove and 899 00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:51,440 then gets a burn on his hand and you go do you see why you don't do that now yeah so yeah maybe 900 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,740 maybe we should call for you know they're going to turn into something else though 901 00:32:54,740 --> 00:33:00,080 right it's still going to be a weak a push for weaker encryption because now they want to find 902 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,540 the guy that's actually hidden behind encryption yeah you can't find him because he has the 903 00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:09,480 encryption right so yeah let's let's just burn the whole thing down you know don't worry about 904 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,740 making things better right let's just let's just get angry about it and 905 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:15,300 it's 906 00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:22,400 dumb all right so yeah there's a whole lot going on with the this DNC hack and it's one of those 907 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:29,220 things where you know you've got the two faces of the government right or where the government 908 00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:34,060 is speaking out of both sides of its face right so to speak you know with the whole weaker encryption 909 00:33:34,060 --> 00:33:42,640 bit and the all these laws that are put in place to make things more secure because they don't want 910 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,540 hackers they don't want any of these hackers in there 911 00:33:45,380 --> 00:33:51,340 um but they are and they want basically to be in control they're like let us control your 912 00:33:51,340 --> 00:33:55,080 infrastructure because you security guys don't know what you're doing with the threat of throwing 913 00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:01,000 security guys in jail for not allowing the federal government to dictate how security is supposed to 914 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:07,320 happen in an IT environment however they're not setting the highest you know the bar very high 915 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,360 here well it all goes back to the idea that you know essentially these people are legislating 916 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,360 things that they don't understand you know when when you're in a situation where you're not able to 917 00:34:15,380 --> 00:34:19,460 do anything you have when they're setting up laws that are just so comically bad when it comes to 918 00:34:19,460 --> 00:34:24,080 stuff like encryption the people who actually know what they're doing it's like it's like child's play 919 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,880 to get into their their equipment and their servers this guy was in there for a year and 920 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:36,520 nobody knew he was there yep just making copies to everything and he uh he sent it all off to 921 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:43,420 to wikileaks so according to wikileaks they basically say they're they're going to be 922 00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:44,900 dumping tons of information 923 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,400 uh and they're already some of it's already out there but apparently there's a whole lot more 924 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:59,240 and uh i don't know you know what what clinton did to piss off julian assange but uh he says 925 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:04,240 there's enough there to indict her and he wants to put it out there in the world okay julian do 926 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:13,240 what you do you know you have to on some level admire the tenacity of wikileaks yeah in this in 927 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:15,360 the face of like extreme odds against them 928 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:18,200 because they're targeting some of the most powerful people in the world 929 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,920 yeah and and when you get even when you even get edward snowden to start tweeting 930 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:29,280 oh this got interesting you know that's that yeah there's something going on there and 931 00:35:30,020 --> 00:35:35,860 everyone's very tight-lipped about it there's not a whole lot being said but i'm sure just like with 932 00:35:35,860 --> 00:35:39,980 the the panama papers and stuff like that there's going to be there's going to be some stuff out 933 00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:43,680 there yeah i was a little shocked at first to see that this wasn't like headline news and then i was 934 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,360 like oh wait actually yeah of course it's not going to be like headline news and then i was like oh 935 00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:45,640 wait actually yeah of course it's not going to be like headline news and then i was like oh 936 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,380 it's not of course it's not all right let's let's let's chew through some culture let's talk to 937 00:35:49,380 --> 00:36:03,300 mark hello mark hold on hold on a second my windows populating with text anyway um it's done so when i 938 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:10,440 go to update 10 again another 10 update uh-huh i'm looking at my list to uninstall stuff do i 939 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,160 uninstall windows live essentials 2011 no essentials can stay 940 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:18,780 okay i thought i had defender but i don't see it in here 941 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:25,240 well great then it's not there i guess not would it be under microsoft defender or what it was called 942 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:32,080 that's called microsoft security essentials if you're in seven i am in seven and uh it's not 943 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:39,080 there all right that for sure i had it so anyway i have um avira i'll take that out good and then 944 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:45,280 when i put in a new antivirus what would i be just reactivating avira again 945 00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:47,040 Sure, if that's what you want to do. 946 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,980 Well, what's the better one? 947 00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:50,560 What's your choice of the week? 948 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,800 The choice of the week? 949 00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:54,180 We're using Bitdefender right now at the shop. 950 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,340 Is that what they're recommending now? 951 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:55,620 Yeah. 952 00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:57,500 Bitdefender. 953 00:36:57,740 --> 00:36:58,460 Bitdefender, yeah. 954 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:58,940 Okay. 955 00:36:59,020 --> 00:37:00,720 Talk to Howard, 304-8300. 956 00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:01,480 He'll tell you everything. 957 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:06,240 The boy has some strong feelings and opinions about antivirus. 958 00:37:06,340 --> 00:37:08,240 In fact, everybody just call Howard right now. 959 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:08,940 Yeah, just call Howard. 960 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,000 Everyone. 961 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,540 Just even to say hi. 962 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:13,840 Okay. 963 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,140 What's the shop number again? 964 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,840 304-8300. 965 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,520 If I get to the shop, though, and Howard burned it down because he got tired of all the phone calls, 966 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:22,420 that'll be interesting. 967 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,000 He's like, all the phones broke simultaneously. 968 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,000 I don't know what happened. 969 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:26,940 Don't know. 970 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:32,280 Anyway, he can talk to you about antivirus and what's recommended there. 971 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,360 Okay. 972 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,860 Okay, great. 973 00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:37,280 I guess that was it. 974 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,380 I'm getting about ready to pull the trigger today. 975 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,580 Yeah, that's what I hear everybody say. 976 00:37:41,740 --> 00:37:42,260 We'll see. 977 00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:45,360 As soon as I back up some stuff that I'm not sure it's done. 978 00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:46,880 Call me next week and you let me know. 979 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,560 Yeah. 980 00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:48,940 Thanks, Mark. 981 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,780 All right, thanks. 982 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,120 All right, Shane, how are you? 983 00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:51,760 How can I help you? 984 00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:53,440 I'm doing great, Mike. 985 00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:53,920 Great show. 986 00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:58,880 Okay, so I'm going to go the full tinfoil hat conspiracy theory nut on you. 987 00:37:59,580 --> 00:38:07,700 So I'm looking at the possibility of trying to get less trackable and less everything basically on the Internet. 988 00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:10,880 I am a supporter of this view. 989 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,000 Okay. 990 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,200 So I've been reading all this stuff about... 991 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,440 I'm possibly instituting, you know, Internet... 992 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:17,980 What is it? 993 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,820 Internet user IDs? 994 00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:20,920 You know, Europe's real big on it right now. 995 00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:23,220 And I say we're in America to do it so they can track people. 996 00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:23,740 Oh, yeah. 997 00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:25,020 Believe me, that's an upcoming episode. 998 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,040 Oh, I will be listening intently. 999 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,320 I've looked at IPVanish. 1000 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,420 I've looked at a bunch of different VPNs and what countries they're based out of. 1001 00:38:34,580 --> 00:38:38,880 I tried setting one up and I ran into the... 1002 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,700 And I'm sure you remember the terminology better than me. 1003 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,060 But, like, I use one of them, you know, CenturyLink, the non-Internet. 1004 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,740 Like you said. 1005 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,120 Right. 1006 00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:49,720 And for some reason, it was putting the servers in Phoenix in between. 1007 00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:52,700 Even though it said I was logged on, even though it said I was... 1008 00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:56,140 That I was on IPVanish and that everything's working great. 1009 00:38:56,260 --> 00:39:00,800 When I ran their testing tools, it said, oh, no, you're not anonymous because they've inserted their servers. 1010 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:01,800 Right. 1011 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:02,780 In the loop. 1012 00:39:03,060 --> 00:39:12,020 So I'm like, okay, so for us non-computer efficient Americans that want to be anonymous and be able to do stuff and not have the government track us, what's a good program to set up? 1013 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,000 Well, that's not about a program. 1014 00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:17,440 This is something that's completely outside of your control. 1015 00:39:17,780 --> 00:39:27,340 So when you're using the CenturyLink, at least CenturyLink locally, you are not actually getting out to the quote-unquote Internet until it hits Phoenix. 1016 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,360 Right. 1017 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,080 So you can't do anything to circumvent that on that particular connection. 1018 00:39:34,780 --> 00:39:38,560 Well, I guess what happened was they had me run the test tools. 1019 00:39:38,740 --> 00:39:39,140 Mm-hmm. 1020 00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:42,000 And basically, if it came back and showed... 1021 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:52,480 Well, they're doing something called packet inspection. 1022 00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:53,860 Okay. 1023 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,160 And that packet inspection is what's tagging it with the geolocation. 1024 00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:58,640 So... 1025 00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:00,380 And that's a CenturyLink thing. 1026 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:04,680 You can complain all you want to CenturyLink and they're going to be like, yeah, that's just sort of the way it is. 1027 00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:05,200 Deal with it. 1028 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,000 So part of the problem is CenturyLink. 1029 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,640 You could switch to a different provider and that goes away. 1030 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:11,680 I know that on... 1031 00:40:12,020 --> 00:40:21,180 On Cox, at least locally, you can do fully end-to-end encrypted communications and you won't get any of that geotagging in the services there. 1032 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,520 Okay. 1033 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,840 So that's a CenturyLink issue. 1034 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:25,920 Gotcha. 1035 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,280 Unfortunately. 1036 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,520 Comcast also, same thing. 1037 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,200 You can use Comcast for that as well. 1038 00:40:32,460 --> 00:40:34,380 Otherwise, you're going to have to get something like a Tor router. 1039 00:40:34,740 --> 00:40:35,300 All right. 1040 00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:36,720 You can get it like a WRT router. 1041 00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:39,960 Any older Linksys router will work for this. 1042 00:40:40,060 --> 00:40:40,900 You can... 1043 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:47,620 There's some software updates you can put on there which anonymizes your connection and makes you part of the Tor network. 1044 00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:51,620 And that anonymizes your end-to-end anonymous. 1045 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,820 Just be careful with that stuff. 1046 00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:53,440 It's hard to do. 1047 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:53,960 Yeah. 1048 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,340 But if you're feeling like you want to be anonymous, that's the way to do it, man. 1049 00:40:58,060 --> 00:40:58,420 Okay. 1050 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,720 Well, I really appreciate that. 1051 00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:00,300 And I'll definitely... 1052 00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:04,280 Do you know, like, which episode upcoming you're going to be talking about all that and the privacy and stuff? 1053 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:05,780 Maybe next weekend. 1054 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,680 Okay. 1055 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,100 I need to do a little more research on what Europe's doing with the whole... 1056 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:10,780 Okay. 1057 00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:10,780 1058 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:12,060 ...hard ID access thing. 1059 00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:19,800 But I've seen a few people talk about it, and so I want to get to the bottom of it and figure out how long that's going to take to get here. 1060 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,700 But, yeah, well, probably next week or the week after. 1061 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,740 And just on a side note, if you... 1062 00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:28,760 Because I know you can understand all the gobbledygooks better than I could reading it. 1063 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,660 I chose IPVanish because it was Italy. 1064 00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:35,660 I think they said they were based out of Italy, and it had something to do with basically... 1065 00:41:36,060 --> 00:41:36,360 Yeah. 1066 00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:40,260 Even if somebody gives them a court order and says, hey, we need to find out what this person's doing, they said, okay, 1067 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:42,600 we set it up impossibly so nobody can. 1068 00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:45,060 You can't track what people are doing on the system. 1069 00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:45,820 Sort of. 1070 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,720 And we'll cover that when it comes to it. 1071 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:47,960 Great. 1072 00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:50,940 There's a certain amount of hopeful optimism there. 1073 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,180 Yeah. 1074 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,200 Okay. 1075 00:41:52,660 --> 00:41:55,140 Well, great show, and I will definitely keep listening. 1076 00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:55,780 Thank you. 1077 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,320 Thanks, Shane. 1078 00:41:56,420 --> 00:41:56,720 Bye-bye. 1079 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,420 We're going to take a quick break, and when we get back, I guess we'll be out of time. 1080 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:01,960 Yeah. 1081 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,920 That's how that's going to work. 1082 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,160 So listen up. 1083 00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:07,100 We have some specials, some deals we want to talk with you about. 1084 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,060 We'll be right back. 1085 00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:12,020 We'll be 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1098 00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:19,120 Facebook or Twitter or basically spamming your friends. 1099 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,800 We're going to give away stuff that I really don't want us to give away, because I want 1100 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:22,980 it. 1101 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:24,580 Yeah. 1102 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,440 Well, you can't have it. 1103 00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:25,760 I know. 1104 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,780 I'm not even qualified to enter. 1105 00:43:26,860 --> 00:43:27,080 Nope. 1106 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,440 Nope. 1107 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,900 You cannot qualify at all, even if you quit. 1108 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:32,760 Just forever banned. 1109 00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:34,380 You're banned from winning. 1110 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,520 Also, I want to take a moment to thank our sponsor for this hour. 1111 00:43:38,620 --> 00:43:40,560 That is Perfection Auto Works. 1112 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,720 And they're a great sponsor, and you should thank 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--> 00:44:34,700 What? 1125 00:44:34,780 --> 00:44:35,180 What? 1126 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:35,920 What? 1127 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,720 I know. 1128 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,060 That's right. 1129 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:37,900 Wait, what? 1130 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,440 It's been years since we've had a two-hour show. 1131 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,320 Yeah. 1132 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,840 And here we are. 1133 00:44:41,860 --> 00:44:42,560 That's crazy. 1134 00:44:43,660 --> 00:44:46,340 And if you want to give us a call, 790-2040. 1135 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,280 That's what you should do. 1136 00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:49,700 You can talk to us on our all-new shiny second hour. 1137 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,000 Right. 1138 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,120 Is it shinier in here? 1139 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:52,820 It is. 1140 00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:53,380 It looks a little brighter. 1141 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,580 It looks a little bit brighter, yeah. 1142 00:44:54,940 --> 00:44:56,640 I think it's because that light bulb came back on. 1143 00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:58,580 But nevertheless, second hour. 1144 00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,220 Second hour. 1145 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,900 So 790-2040 if you want to be part of the show. 1146 00:45:02,140 --> 00:45:02,820 Give us a call. 1147 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:10,260 We're going to talk a lot in this particular, the second hour here, about privacy. 1148 00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,100 And censorship. 1149 00:45:13,220 --> 00:45:15,800 And how those two kind of correlate with one another. 1150 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:24,620 And it really came to light because of a less than wonderful event that happened. 1151 00:45:24,860 --> 00:45:26,280 We'll say a tragedy. 1152 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:37,100 So as you may know, you should know by now, the Orlando shooting caused a very interesting 1153 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,280 set of things to happen on the internet. 1154 00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:40,880 As far as... 1155 00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:46,040 There are places that tout themselves to be... 1156 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,660 What's their slogan? 1157 00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:49,200 The front page of the internet. 1158 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,200 The front page of the internet. 1159 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,480 Now, we've talked about Reddit before on this show. 1160 00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:58,180 And, you know, over the last couple of years, our views on Reddit have changed for sure. 1161 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:02,240 Because it used to be, when Reddit first started and we were first on it, it was like awesome 1162 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:03,060 and we're all for it. 1163 00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:07,960 But as they've grown and evolved, it's been leading inevitably to something like what 1164 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,460 just happened. 1165 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,240 Right. 1166 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:09,420 Right. 1167 00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:10,740 So over the last couple of years... 1168 00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:10,880 Right. 1169 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:10,880 1170 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:10,880 1171 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:10,880 1172 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:10,880 1173 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:10,880 1174 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:10,880 1175 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:10,880 1176 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:10,880 1177 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:15,120 There's been a few management shakeups over at Reddit. 1178 00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:18,980 And it's very interesting because it's sort of a... 1179 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,680 At least in the beginning, it was very much a self-policing thing, right? 1180 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:30,280 Where there are moderators of each of the particular subreddits or boards that are on 1181 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:30,420 there. 1182 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:37,780 And it was a rather democratic process for the most part as far as, you know, people 1183 00:46:37,780 --> 00:46:38,820 could put up their ideas. 1184 00:46:39,380 --> 00:46:40,800 And those ideas... 1185 00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:44,260 And those ideas would then be either upvoted or downvoted by the community. 1186 00:46:44,620 --> 00:46:48,140 And you can say, well, either I support this or I think this is terrible. 1187 00:46:48,580 --> 00:46:53,220 And, of course, the more that it has upvotes, the higher visibility it has on the site. 1188 00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:56,520 And then the more downvotes it has, the less visibility it has on the site. 1189 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:06,060 And even that, even though that particular segment of the population, right, the entire 1190 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:09,460 site has a definite political leaning. 1191 00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,160 And it's pretty obvious in the stuff that you see. 1192 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,840 And that part was bothersome for us, you know, the last time we talked about Reddit was more 1193 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,700 than a year ago as far as the problems seen there. 1194 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,640 But the Orlando shooting brought something else completely to light. 1195 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:29,340 There's a subreddit on there called News. 1196 00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:33,340 And there's some other ones on there like World News and there's... 1197 00:47:33,340 --> 00:47:35,040 News is one of the default subreddits. 1198 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,060 So when you first create an account, you're already subscribed to it. 1199 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:38,480 Right. 1200 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,320 Same with World News. 1201 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:39,620 Yeah. 1202 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,640 And it's designed so that the community can take things that it thinks are newsworthy, 1203 00:47:45,780 --> 00:47:49,960 put them, submit them to Reddit, and then Reddit will either upvote them or downvote 1204 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,600 them for visibility. 1205 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,460 So if it's something that is getting a lot of coverage, it should very rapidly make it 1206 00:47:57,460 --> 00:48:01,480 to the front page where that's what you see as soon as you log into Reddit. 1207 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,280 And in the past, many news stories have actually broken on Reddit first. 1208 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,500 Even before the news, the real news sites picked them up, people were reporting them 1209 00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:09,860 on Reddit. 1210 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,480 Right. 1211 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:10,880 Right. 1212 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1213 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1214 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1215 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1216 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1217 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1218 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1219 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1220 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1221 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1222 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1223 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1224 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1225 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1226 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:10,880 1227 00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:11,080 They were posting them. 1228 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,420 They had mega threads and live threads regarding the discussion of those events. 1229 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,520 Boston bombing comes to mind there. 1230 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:24,860 So when the Boston Marathon bombing happened, it happened first on Reddit as far as a large 1231 00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:28,060 scale noteworthiness. 1232 00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:28,440 Yeah. 1233 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,200 People who were there were taking pictures and posting them on Reddit. 1234 00:48:31,580 --> 00:48:32,060 Yeah. 1235 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,180 It's a big deal. 1236 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:39,260 Now, what happened during the Orlando shooting was really depressing. 1237 00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:50,140 It was that the officials, the moderators of Reddit were straight up deleting entries, 1238 00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:58,160 just censorship, just like you've been banned and banned people because someone made the 1239 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:05,940 association between Omar the shooter and ISIS because of the 911 call. 1240 00:49:06,020 --> 00:49:09,240 They called it hate speech and banned the entire thread. 1241 00:49:09,260 --> 00:49:09,780 Yeah. 1242 00:49:09,860 --> 00:49:13,160 They were just immediately deleting anything that made a reference to that. 1243 00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:20,880 So if they made a, even if somebody asked, you know, oh my, oh my, is this another, another 1244 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,860 terrorist attack? 1245 00:49:21,980 --> 00:49:22,960 Bam, got deleted. 1246 00:49:23,140 --> 00:49:27,760 It was to the tune of, you know, thousands of comments were deleted. 1247 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,800 Dozens and dozens of posts that were made were deleted. 1248 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,540 There was just entire threads where every comment was marked as removed. 1249 00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:37,460 Yeah. 1250 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,360 It's pretty. 1251 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:38,360 1252 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,880 And this is one of those things is that, you know, more and more people these days, they 1253 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,900 do not, especially in the younger generation, right? 1254 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,380 They don't, they don't look to TV for news. 1255 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:58,920 They don't look to the normal news outlets that nobody trusts in, in the younger demographics. 1256 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,900 Nobody trusts Fox news or CNN or MSNBC. 1257 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:02,440 We don't care. 1258 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,960 We don't trust them at all. 1259 00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:08,340 Because they're sort of led by their own agenda. 1260 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:15,760 And for a long time, Reddit could be looked at as, as something where it's obviously community 1261 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:21,860 powered, community fueled, and it's what the world is talking about at that moment. 1262 00:50:22,660 --> 00:50:27,880 So why, it basically seemed to be a more fair place to look for information. 1263 00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:28,460 Yeah. 1264 00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:33,200 It was supposed to be this platform where anyone could share anything without the fear 1265 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,860 of censorship. 1266 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:34,600 You know? 1267 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,260 Like you could discuss a newsworthy event that was happening. 1268 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:38,340 Yeah. 1269 00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:38,340 1270 00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:38,340 1271 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,800 And not worry about the government or mainstream media slanting it. 1272 00:50:42,580 --> 00:50:46,060 But I mean, it's, I think people quickly forget that Reddit is a company. 1273 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:46,960 Right. 1274 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:47,720 They're a business. 1275 00:50:47,860 --> 00:50:53,900 And more importantly though, is there's a certain mob mentality that happens on Reddit 1276 00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:56,800 and it's unfortunate, right? 1277 00:50:56,860 --> 00:51:04,440 That, that voices can be silenced effectively, not only by the community itself, but at the 1278 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,280 moderator level. 1279 00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:08,340 And they came back with a couple of excuses about, well, I'm not going to do this. 1280 00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:08,340 1281 00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:08,600 I'm going to do this. 1282 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:08,600 1283 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:08,600 1284 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,240 And so, you know, there's a, there's a bot, an auto moderator that saw these as duplicates 1285 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:14,180 and was deleting everything. 1286 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,660 But under any level of scrutiny, this argument doesn't hit, you know, it doesn't stand up. 1287 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,100 Yeah. 1288 00:51:21,180 --> 00:51:23,220 I mean, they, they did remove one moderator. 1289 00:51:24,140 --> 00:51:27,620 But I couldn't see that as anything other than a scapegoat tactic personally. 1290 00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:28,160 Yeah. 1291 00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:31,160 And to be fair, that moderator was telling people to go kill themselves. 1292 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,320 So you probably shouldn't be in that position anyway. 1293 00:51:36,340 --> 00:51:38,320 But there were also things like you said, when it came to the, the, the, the, the, the, the, 1294 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:54,740 the only language that couldn't be seeded from the seed seed seed seed seed seed seed 1295 00:51:54,740 --> 00:51:56,580 seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed 1296 00:51:56,580 --> 00:51:56,600 seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed 1297 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:56,620 seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed 1298 00:51:56,620 --> 00:51:56,660 seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed 1299 00:51:56,660 --> 00:51:56,760 seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed 1300 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:56,760 1301 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,440 seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed 1302 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,100 seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed seed 1303 00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:05,900 And we don't like the idea that the Internet can be silenced or moderated as a whole, especially at the state level. 1304 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:12,720 Because there are people who their only way of communicating with the world is through the Internet. 1305 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:26,960 And in some cases, there are places like in the Middle East that we've talked about where the only outlet that people have to say, hey, this is what's going on here, help, is potentially silenced. 1306 00:52:27,940 --> 00:52:33,700 And, you know, China is a great issue of how the world can be manipulated. 1307 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:42,900 And same with North Korea, right, where you look at how the worldview can be manipulated just by changing the content or censoring the content that's on the Internet. 1308 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,940 And we don't like that. 1309 00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:52,540 And I think that as Americans, we like to believe that we're exempt from that type of thing to some extent because we have freedom of speech here in the United States. 1310 00:52:52,620 --> 00:52:56,760 But examples like what happened with Reddit are proof that that is not necessarily. 1311 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:03,060 The case all the time, if you trust one entity too much for your news, something like this is bound to happen. 1312 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:16,680 And the same thing with Facebook, right, where Facebook was basically accused of censoring the trending news topics and saying, well, this is a little too right leaning for us. 1313 00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:20,180 So we're not going to post it as a as a trending topic. 1314 00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:26,660 Now, the Young Turks did an interesting video on this and not. 1315 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,220 But I at all want people to watch the Young Turks. 1316 00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:34,420 But they're an Internet news organization, is that what they call themselves? 1317 00:53:35,460 --> 00:53:43,980 And their explanation was, well, you can't trust sources like Breitbart and you can't trust sources like Drudge Report. 1318 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,280 So you have to give it a little more time. 1319 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,700 You have to find other sources before they'll put it up in trending. 1320 00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:56,640 But if Huffington Post put something up, you know, they put it up rather. 1321 00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:56,900 I mean. 1322 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,260 Without the secondary looks, without the backup sources. 1323 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,180 Basically, if you were you can't. 1324 00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:14,940 I think you can't unless you are a news organization that you shouldn't be trying to moderate the news. 1325 00:54:15,140 --> 00:54:20,080 You shouldn't be determining for yourself what's important, especially like with the Facebook thing. 1326 00:54:20,260 --> 00:54:23,940 It's like if there's a certain number of people saying it, it's trending. 1327 00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:24,480 Right. 1328 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,400 It doesn't matter whether it's true or not. 1329 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:26,780 Right. 1330 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,660 The trend is, is that people are talking about this. 1331 00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:41,940 So in order to to vet things for truthfulness on a trending list seems wrong, especially if you're not applying to the same rules to both sides of that spectrum. 1332 00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:43,520 Now, don't get me wrong. 1333 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:51,500 You know, the as far as I'm concerned, the the news sources on the left and the right are both crazy. 1334 00:54:51,660 --> 00:54:52,280 All right. 1335 00:54:52,340 --> 00:54:56,380 It's there's a certain amount of centrism that I long for. 1336 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,500 I want Walter Cronkite to come back. 1337 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,880 I want to be told news with without any type of commentary. 1338 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:14,640 I want to know the details without any of the slant one way or the other opinion that is associated with it. 1339 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:16,480 I just want to be told the facts. 1340 00:55:16,780 --> 00:55:17,860 Just the facts, man. 1341 00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:18,440 That's it. 1342 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:26,140 And it's to me to have an organization like Reddit. 1343 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,660 Say, well, we don't think that this is news. 1344 00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:41,460 So we're going to kill this, even though there are hundreds of submissions or thousands of comments on that particular thread to just kill that thread because they don't like the way it works. 1345 00:55:41,740 --> 00:55:42,880 It bothers me. 1346 00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:49,440 And where do you draw the line between when something becomes for the greater good? 1347 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,480 Or is it is it really the policing of thought? 1348 00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:54,980 Right. 1349 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,200 And I think that the important thing. 1350 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:11,400 I remember here is that the only evidence that we have that a company like Reddit or any type of alternative news organization on the Internet, the only evidence we have that they are trying to uphold the ideals of, you know, open press and free speech is that they tell us that they are. 1351 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,620 You know, there's they're under no obligation as a company. 1352 00:56:14,660 --> 00:56:16,060 They can delete whatever they want. 1353 00:56:16,180 --> 00:56:17,300 You know, they're under no right. 1354 00:56:17,660 --> 00:56:18,060 Yeah. 1355 00:56:18,140 --> 00:56:19,440 They don't have to do that at all. 1356 00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:21,080 They could have just said, yep, we deleted it. 1357 00:56:21,140 --> 00:56:25,600 You know, but they know that because they are ultimately they have to answer to their users. 1358 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,340 They had to come out and say, well, yeah, it was a mistake, you know, and we're taking steps to undo it. 1359 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,360 But I have to wonder if they hadn't gotten caught. 1360 00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:35,560 Of course, that, you know, that wouldn't have happened. 1361 00:56:35,620 --> 00:56:36,580 They wouldn't have come forth. 1362 00:56:37,340 --> 00:56:49,940 So in opposition to this, I would say that you have the opportunity to to choose other sources on the Internet to get your information from. 1363 00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:55,120 Now, as with anything, there's always a there's always a flip side. 1364 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,440 There's always a side B. 1365 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:04,980 And so like to MSNBC, you end up with Fox News and to Huffington Post, you end up with Drudge Report. 1366 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:13,360 So you end up with these sort of left and right spectrum, I guess, A and B spectrum alternatives. 1367 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,600 The alternative to Reddit is Vote, which is V-O-A-T. 1368 00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:19,820 Dot C-O. 1369 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,260 And that that's an interesting site. 1370 00:57:23,340 --> 00:57:24,940 I mean, they're very similar. 1371 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:32,780 In appearance and how they work, but very different as far as content and how they deal with content. 1372 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:45,480 And as far as we can tell right now, at least looking when I looked on on Sunday and Monday last week at the differences between the Reddit news and the vote news, they were radically different. 1373 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:46,560 Yeah. 1374 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:55,040 And it's actually kind of funny because in direct as a direct result of this whole situation with Reddit vote has experienced what they call. 1375 00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:05,300 Almost a doubling of traffic that weekend as people leave Reddit and go to vote because people were looking for information that couldn't find that was being deleted or censored at the other site. 1376 00:58:05,860 --> 00:58:07,080 And and great. 1377 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,480 At least there is an alternative for now. 1378 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,360 Yeah. 1379 00:58:10,460 --> 00:58:15,560 I mean, the future will show if if vote remains to be this bastion of free speech like they claim. 1380 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,940 But for now, it's a great site. 1381 00:58:18,580 --> 00:58:19,020 Yeah. 1382 00:58:19,140 --> 00:58:25,080 So we're going to talk a little bit more about how the Internet kind of forms the way that we. 1383 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:31,220 Put information out there and a little bit more about who's policing your thoughts online. 1384 00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:32,160 We'll be right back. 1385 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:42,240 Your computer guru, Mike Swanson, is here to help you tame that beast of a machine. 1386 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,080 Join the chat right now at Guru show dot com or call in. 1387 00:58:46,180 --> 00:58:48,620 This is a computer guru show on KV. 1388 00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:49,660 Why the voice? 1389 00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:54,860 Your technology guru, Mike Swanson, is answering all your questions. 1390 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:55,460 One by one. 1391 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:56,300 Yes, science. 1392 00:58:56,580 --> 00:58:57,640 So chime in with yours. 1393 00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:00,000 The website is Guru show dot com. 1394 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,340 Tune in, click in and kick back. 1395 00:59:02,580 --> 00:59:04,520 This is a computer guru show. 1396 00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,660 Welcome back to the computer guru show. 1397 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,820 Seven nine zero twenty forty. 1398 00:59:08,940 --> 00:59:09,800 If you want to be part of the show. 1399 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,680 Five two zero seven nine zero twenty forty. 1400 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,940 Let's go and take Ingrid. 1401 00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:13,600 Hello, Ingrid. 1402 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:13,980 How are you? 1403 00:59:14,260 --> 00:59:14,700 Hi. 1404 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,420 I'd like to say, first of all, that I know virtually nothing about computers except the keyboard. 1405 00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:21,860 And. 1406 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,520 But this business of. 1407 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:30,180 What's available to us and what kind of information is being given is really. 1408 00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:32,440 This is a fabulous subject. 1409 00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:33,180 Very important. 1410 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,280 Glad that you brought it up. 1411 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:44,440 Some days ago, there was discussion about Hillary Clinton's name being entered into various sites and different kinds of information coming up about her. 1412 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,980 Some was very bland, fluffy, inconsequential. 1413 00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:51,520 And other stuff was of more substance. 1414 00:59:51,660 --> 00:59:54,780 And of the things that, you know, people who are. 1415 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,840 Disappointed in her. 1416 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,620 Want to talk about. 1417 00:59:58,660 --> 01:00:01,420 You mentioned Walter Cronkite. 1418 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,960 Who knows if he was giving us everything that was available? 1419 01:00:07,340 --> 01:00:17,360 Who knows who is in the pool of people who have information, who will give it out or won't give it out or give out false information? 1420 01:00:18,380 --> 01:00:20,280 Everything is really quite unknown. 1421 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,060 It's a matter of trusting people. 1422 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:23,640 Who do you trust? 1423 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,220 And the Internet is so big. 1424 01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:33,900 And you talked about people in parts of the world where that's literally all they have available to them. 1425 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,160 It has made things very, very dangerous. 1426 01:00:39,220 --> 01:00:44,400 And people are influenced and can be pitted against each other. 1427 01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:48,100 Look what they're doing now with the terrorist attacks. 1428 01:00:48,620 --> 01:00:53,200 They're looking at it from this direction, from that direction, manipulating everything. 1429 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:54,720 We're being. 1430 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,200 We're being ripped apart. 1431 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:04,680 Well, I guess that's sort of the point I was trying to get at is that information should be out there in the world for all of us to see and for all of us to make our own opinion about. 1432 01:01:04,980 --> 01:01:13,480 And I think that if someone takes it upon themselves to censor that information for the masses, what right do they have to censor that information? 1433 01:01:14,860 --> 01:01:21,300 The part that bothers me is not necessarily that there are there is misinformation out there. 1434 01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:24,600 The part that bothers me is that someone has taken it upon themselves. 1435 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:47,820 And I think that's the part that bothers me. 1436 01:01:47,820 --> 01:01:49,820 We have no way of knowing if he was giving us the truth. 1437 01:01:50,140 --> 01:01:55,020 Well, now we have potentially a million new sources at our fingertips at any given moment. 1438 01:01:55,140 --> 01:01:57,540 So we don't have to live in the forced echo chamber. 1439 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,720 You know, we can always go to a different source and fact check and verify. 1440 01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:03,720 That doesn't mean that people do. 1441 01:02:04,620 --> 01:02:08,100 But we have the ability to for the potentially the first time in human history. 1442 01:02:08,260 --> 01:02:11,920 The thing is to go to all kinds of sources constantly. 1443 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,160 Listen to Canadian news. 1444 01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:17,800 I used to do that some years ago. 1445 01:02:17,820 --> 01:02:22,100 And I would listen to Canadian and American news and see what I was missing. 1446 01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:27,760 And now, of course, I'm at this border and I like to hear both sides of things. 1447 01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:30,480 And we listen to the national news at night. 1448 01:02:30,580 --> 01:02:40,880 And that's one of what we're just saying is that now you have the opportunity to listen to news from all over the world to get a different perspective to different geographical areas within the United States. 1449 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:47,760 You get to listen to or have access to information from everywhere and from every site. 1450 01:02:47,820 --> 01:02:51,280 And that's a double edged sword, right? 1451 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:59,400 Where you've got all this information and all of these opinions and viewpoints that sort of don't necessarily match up with one another. 1452 01:02:59,540 --> 01:03:04,640 And then somebody is going to be offended and say, well, that's hate speech or that is this is totally offensive. 1453 01:03:04,740 --> 01:03:06,640 I feel completely triggered or whatever. 1454 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:16,780 But that information needs to remain there because it is information from which you can form an opinion. 1455 01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:17,800 Well, it's not. 1456 01:03:17,820 --> 01:03:23,040 The young people need to have it drilled into their heads that they have to look everywhere for information. 1457 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:28,500 And when it's found out that somebody is censoring, that entity needs to be. 1458 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,940 And that's that's the thing with the whole journalistic integrity thing. 1459 01:03:33,180 --> 01:03:33,720 All right. 1460 01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:41,800 Where you have large news organizations like, you know, you had ABC News that had a big thing with Brian Williams and some of these other. 1461 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,540 What's a Tom Brokaw before that? 1462 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,680 You had these large news scandals. 1463 01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:47,720 And the reason they were scandals were because. 1464 01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:50,380 Because there was an implicit implied trust. 1465 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:50,700 Yeah. 1466 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,860 People trusted those people like Brian Williams. 1467 01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:54,040 You know, it's a household name. 1468 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:54,380 Right. 1469 01:03:54,460 --> 01:03:58,580 So there is an implied trust that goes along with saying I am the news. 1470 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,300 Whereas with these other sources, you know, when you're dealing with the Internet, it's not. 1471 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:10,600 But there there are people like Huffington Post, like even in some respects a drudge. 1472 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:11,240 Right. 1473 01:04:11,340 --> 01:04:14,620 That are are trading in on the name. 1474 01:04:14,740 --> 01:04:14,980 Right. 1475 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,700 They're saying I am a news source. 1476 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,440 Well, not. 1477 01:04:17,820 --> 01:04:18,240 Really. 1478 01:04:18,380 --> 01:04:18,680 Right. 1479 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,300 Because you you have your own slant. 1480 01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:30,160 And what I'm looking for when I'm looking for a news source is someone is going to give me raw sort of unfiltered thought. 1481 01:04:30,460 --> 01:04:30,760 Yeah. 1482 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:37,080 And I mean, even just in terms of this show, when we're doing research on a topic for that, we're going to talk about on the show. 1483 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,860 Like, for instance, I've got three articles on this one subject that we're going to maybe talk about in a little bit. 1484 01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:47,800 And I'm checking each of those articles as we're doing the show to make sure that all the facts are straight. 1485 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,520 And that we're going to be giving accurate information. 1486 01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:53,560 You can't just go to one source and then be like, I know everything about the story now. 1487 01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:54,340 Right. 1488 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,380 And you almost have to make a last minute check to find out if something new didn't pop up. 1489 01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,520 Yeah, absolutely. 1490 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,500 Thank you. 1491 01:05:00,580 --> 01:05:01,840 I'll hang up and stop talking. 1492 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:02,700 Thanks for the call. 1493 01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:03,120 Thanks for the call. 1494 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:08,900 Yeah, there's there's a certain amount of I give out information on the show that is occasionally wrong. 1495 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:09,520 Right. 1496 01:05:09,620 --> 01:05:11,680 Sometimes it's just my opinion that's wrong. 1497 01:05:11,780 --> 01:05:14,060 Sometimes the actual fact I give out is wrong. 1498 01:05:14,220 --> 01:05:14,620 Right. 1499 01:05:14,740 --> 01:05:15,860 And it happens. 1500 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:16,680 Right. 1501 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:16,860 Right. 1502 01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:16,900 Right. 1503 01:05:16,900 --> 01:05:16,960 Right. 1504 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:17,100 Right. 1505 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:17,200 1506 01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:17,320 Right. 1507 01:05:17,380 --> 01:05:17,780 Right. 1508 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:17,780 1509 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:17,780 1510 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:17,780 1511 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:17,780 1512 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:17,780 1513 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:17,780 1514 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:17,780 1515 01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:18,320 Right. 1516 01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:30,500 Right. 1517 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1518 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1519 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1520 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1521 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1522 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1523 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1524 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1525 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1526 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1527 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1528 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1529 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1530 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1531 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1532 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1533 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1534 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1535 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1536 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1537 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1538 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1539 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1540 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1541 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1542 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1543 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1544 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1545 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1546 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1547 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1548 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1549 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1550 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1551 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1552 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1553 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1554 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1555 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1556 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1557 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1558 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1559 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1560 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1561 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1562 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1563 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1564 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1565 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1566 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1567 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1568 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:30,500 1569 01:05:30,500 --> 01:05:37,000 So occasionally I get something wrong, or sometimes I misinterpret the question or whatever, 1570 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,440 and I feel bad about this every time that that happens. 1571 01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:44,580 But there are people out there that are willing to put misinformation into the world, 1572 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:51,440 and the bigger problem for me isn't necessarily even the journalistic integrity. 1573 01:05:52,060 --> 01:05:59,820 It's the idea that because someone doesn't like another idea that they have the right to censor it, 1574 01:05:59,820 --> 01:06:03,520 and I think it's completely antithetical to the First Amendment. 1575 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,920 It goes against the idea that we have a protection of speech in this country, 1576 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:16,700 and at what point does your outrage, your ability to be offended, 1577 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:23,920 outweigh my constitutional right to say whatever it is that I feel, or any other human for that matter? 1578 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,560 We don't have the right to silence someone because we disagree with them, 1579 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,800 because if they're not going to be able to say what they want to say, 1580 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:29,800 1581 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:29,800 1582 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:29,800 1583 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,680 if that's the case, you should just go to a regular college these days. 1584 01:06:32,900 --> 01:06:36,460 And not to mention that everyone disagrees with everyone on everything anyway. 1585 01:06:36,780 --> 01:06:37,160 Right. 1586 01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:40,880 There will always be some guy sitting there listening to us right now going, 1587 01:06:41,060 --> 01:06:42,460 these guys are totally wrong. 1588 01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:46,840 Right, and there's another part of this that is very much involved with technology. 1589 01:06:47,500 --> 01:06:51,220 I think that if you were to go back 50 years and wonder, 1590 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:58,160 well, why didn't we have these types of safe spaces and all of this craziness that's out there 1591 01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,060 as far as... 1592 01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:02,920 people not getting along and wanting to censor each other. 1593 01:07:02,980 --> 01:07:10,220 If you were to look back 50 years ago, you didn't have the mashup of ideas that you have now. 1594 01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:15,860 You didn't have billions of people just on the other end of your screen 1595 01:07:15,860 --> 01:07:20,640 that could all communicate directly with one another in mass. 1596 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,780 Before it was like you had a local newspaper, maybe one TV channel 1597 01:07:24,780 --> 01:07:27,400 that might have told you something interesting. 1598 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,780 But now you have the entire... 1599 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:30,880 You have the entire world at your fingertips. 1600 01:07:31,060 --> 01:07:35,000 You have everything in front of you and there's way more to disagree with. 1601 01:07:35,420 --> 01:07:39,960 Ultimately, I think that the only real reason anyone would have to censor another idea 1602 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,300 is because they're afraid that they're wrong. 1603 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,960 The safe space thing is they're afraid that they are wrong. 1604 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,880 And whether that's because they know it or not, I think that's ultimately the cause. 1605 01:07:51,140 --> 01:07:53,720 You live in an echo chamber because you're afraid of what's on the outside of it. 1606 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:55,560 This is very true. 1607 01:07:55,900 --> 01:07:57,640 All right, let's go ahead and talk to Mark real quick. 1608 01:07:57,700 --> 01:07:58,360 Hello, Mark. How are you? 1609 01:07:59,040 --> 01:07:59,440 Hey. 1610 01:07:59,800 --> 01:07:59,940 Hi, Mike. 1611 01:08:00,180 --> 01:08:04,180 I was pleasingly surprised to have you, hear you back on. 1612 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,520 And I want to thank you for coming back on for a second hour, 1613 01:08:07,660 --> 01:08:10,580 which means I'm going to get less things done on this Saturday. 1614 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,000 Because I'll be listening to you more than I would be, you know, 1615 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,720 intently listening to the former pinko commie. 1616 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,020 Our plan is finally coming together to make Saturdays more lazy. 1617 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:22,300 Yes. 1618 01:08:22,300 --> 01:08:25,420 Well, yeah, well, not lazy because anyway. 1619 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:26,760 So, yeah. 1620 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,460 So I'm going to miss some of those call-ins from the... 1621 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:30,940 from the other period. 1622 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,940 But maybe Emil can take up the slack and actually have a two-way dialogue 1623 01:08:35,940 --> 01:08:40,740 instead of a socialistic public school perspective. 1624 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:42,000 Right. 1625 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,500 Well, you know, I don't know a whole lot about the show that was on during this hour. 1626 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,700 I listened a couple of times and very nice people. 1627 01:08:51,180 --> 01:08:51,620 Yeah. 1628 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,060 But, you know, I figured who doesn't want more guru? 1629 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,220 That's correct. 1630 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,360 We would do a 12-hour show if we could. 1631 01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:59,220 We want more guru. 1632 01:08:59,220 --> 01:09:00,640 I would not do a 12-hour show. 1633 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:01,120 That's too much. 1634 01:09:01,420 --> 01:09:02,380 So more guru. 1635 01:09:02,780 --> 01:09:04,280 And so thanks for being on again. 1636 01:09:04,740 --> 01:09:05,520 That's really great. 1637 01:09:05,820 --> 01:09:06,040 Excellent. 1638 01:09:06,060 --> 01:09:08,480 Also, I forgot to mention when I talked to you earlier. 1639 01:09:09,060 --> 01:09:11,820 So I have two entries of Avera. 1640 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,520 The one is, of course, the antivirus. 1641 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:14,420 The other is the launcher. 1642 01:09:14,540 --> 01:09:15,900 Do I uninstall both of those? 1643 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,000 Just the antivirus is the important one. 1644 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,180 But I would... 1645 01:09:19,180 --> 01:09:20,620 The launcher is okay to leave in? 1646 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,720 I'd get rid of them both. 1647 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:22,360 Okay. 1648 01:09:22,380 --> 01:09:23,220 That's what I wanted to know. 1649 01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:24,500 So I'll get rid of them both. 1650 01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,500 Oh, you know, and thank you for the call. 1651 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,360 I appreciate it, Mark. 1652 01:09:27,480 --> 01:09:27,940 Thanks for... 1653 01:09:27,940 --> 01:09:29,040 Thank you for the thank you. 1654 01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:30,020 Thank you. 1655 01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:30,880 Okay. 1656 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,920 One of the other things that I forgot to mention, 1657 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,020 that Computer Guru is in the Best of Tucson running. 1658 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:36,880 Oh, yeah, we are. 1659 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,860 Arizona Computer Guru is up for Best of Tucson in the finalists category. 1660 01:09:40,860 --> 01:09:47,640 Yeah, so you should take an opportunity to go over to the Tucson Weekly site 1661 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,580 and vote for Arizona Computer Guru in the Best of Tucson. 1662 01:09:51,660 --> 01:09:53,880 We posted it on our Facebook and all of our social, 1663 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,960 but if you just Google search Best of Tucson finalists, 1664 01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:56,880 you can go vote for us. 1665 01:09:57,060 --> 01:09:57,460 Yeah. 1666 01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,200 So we're going to take a quick break. 1667 01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:02,180 You can give us a call at 790-2040 if you want to be part of the show. 1668 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:02,940 We'll be right back. 1669 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,100 Whether you're dealing with hardware installation or, heaven forbid, a virus... 1670 01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:15,260 No! 1671 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:16,040 No! 1672 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:16,400 No! 1673 01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:20,120 Mike Swanson is answering all your questions one by one. 1674 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,260 So call in or chat in with yours. 1675 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,260 The website? 1676 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:24,780 Gurushow.com. 1677 01:10:25,140 --> 01:10:27,380 Tune in, click in, and kick back. 1678 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,660 This is the... 1679 01:10:29,220 --> 01:10:32,420 Guru Show on AM 1030, KVOI, The Voice. 1680 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,220 Mike Swanson, your computer guru, is just a click away. 1681 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,560 Listen and watch at gurushow.com. 1682 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,560 This is the Computer Guru Show on KVOI, The Voice. 1683 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,260 Well, let's talk about Windows upgrades for a moment. 1684 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:50,440 Again. 1685 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:51,040 Again. 1686 01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:56,760 And the only reason is because I'm sitting here reading this subject here, right? 1687 01:10:56,780 --> 01:10:58,980 Because when you guys call in, I get, 1688 01:10:59,220 --> 01:11:04,720 generally, I get a name and three words about, 1689 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,460 this is sort of what this is about. 1690 01:11:06,780 --> 01:11:08,600 And that's all I get, generally. 1691 01:11:09,460 --> 01:11:11,920 But this one has an LOL in it. 1692 01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:15,620 Is that yours, Kent, or his? 1693 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:16,340 It's his. 1694 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,300 Let's go ahead and bring him on here. 1695 01:11:19,420 --> 01:11:19,960 Let's talk to Aaron. 1696 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:20,400 Hello, Aaron. 1697 01:11:21,700 --> 01:11:22,260 Well, hi. 1698 01:11:23,380 --> 01:11:24,620 Tell me about your issue. 1699 01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:27,760 As I mentioned to the screener, 1700 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,080 I'm doing... 1701 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:34,140 I'm doing Windows 10 upgrades with only CenturyLink type of downloads. 1702 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,860 Yeah, that definitely requires an LOL. 1703 01:11:36,940 --> 01:11:38,120 That's where the LOL comes in. 1704 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,820 Yeah, it's just not cutting it. 1705 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,420 You're right. 1706 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,240 I mean, I'm sorry. 1707 01:11:44,340 --> 01:11:44,660 I'm shocked. 1708 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:45,560 I'm surprised. 1709 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,900 CenturyLink isn't amazingly fast. 1710 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:48,680 No. 1711 01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:50,540 No, it's not. 1712 01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:55,120 Okay, so how many machines do you have? 1713 01:11:56,300 --> 01:11:56,780 Two. 1714 01:11:56,860 --> 01:11:57,660 Two of them, okay. 1715 01:11:57,740 --> 01:11:58,200 Okay. 1716 01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,040 And are... 1717 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,500 Are they both desktops, or is one of them a laptop? 1718 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,120 They're both desktops. 1719 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:02,520 Okay. 1720 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,560 But I can bring them... 1721 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,680 I can take them to any place, even down to your store... 1722 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:08,640 Starbucks or something. 1723 01:12:09,420 --> 01:12:10,960 ...and have you guys work on them. 1724 01:12:11,140 --> 01:12:14,820 Yeah, we can do the upgrade for you, because we have really, really fast internet at the 1725 01:12:14,820 --> 01:12:15,040 shop. 1726 01:12:15,740 --> 01:12:16,120 Yeah. 1727 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:23,560 We can do that for you, or you can take one of them somewhere and download Windows 10, 1728 01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:26,300 and it'll share it with the other one, just so you know. 1729 01:12:27,340 --> 01:12:27,660 Oh, yeah. 1730 01:12:27,660 --> 01:12:28,140 Well, I've done... 1731 01:12:28,140 --> 01:12:29,220 I've done the upgrades. 1732 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:30,560 It's just getting the... 1733 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:31,380 It's the... 1734 01:12:31,380 --> 01:12:34,400 You know, periodically, you have to do a Windows upgrade. 1735 01:12:34,820 --> 01:12:36,260 That's when the problem begins. 1736 01:12:36,500 --> 01:12:41,480 So, let's talk about, like, do you have other options as far as internet where you're at? 1737 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:42,860 Well, yeah. 1738 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:49,640 But the white boss, only what she wants to do is do Amazons and Zappos. 1739 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:54,880 That's all she wants to do, and she's very happy with cutting corners on everything else, 1740 01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:58,020 except when the operating system's at... 1741 01:12:58,140 --> 01:13:01,180 It comes into play, but she doesn't understand. 1742 01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:06,000 So, let me put my marriage counselor hat on for a minute, and I'm going to go ahead and 1743 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,740 say, you can tell your wife that the guru says that you need better internet, because 1744 01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:12,300 that's ridiculous. 1745 01:13:13,740 --> 01:13:14,820 What are you guys paying for internet? 1746 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:16,640 Do you know? 1747 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:18,120 Mm-hmm. 1748 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:19,740 Do you know how much you're paying for internet? 1749 01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:23,680 Oh, maybe right now it's sub-40. 1750 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:24,780 All right. 1751 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:25,560 By baud rate. 1752 01:13:25,620 --> 01:13:27,140 By baud rate on the... 1753 01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:29,720 On the Speakeasy, it's like 15. 1754 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:30,520 All right. 1755 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,600 So, if you can measure it in baud, that's really nice. 1756 01:13:33,980 --> 01:13:34,440 All right. 1757 01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:35,480 So, you're getting, like, 15 megabit? 1758 01:13:36,260 --> 01:13:36,580 Yeah. 1759 01:13:36,580 --> 01:13:37,540 Or 1.5? 1760 01:13:37,580 --> 01:13:39,080 Because I think you're getting 1.5. 1761 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:40,120 Oh, no. 1762 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:41,040 15. 1763 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:42,820 Now, 15's not bad. 1764 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,220 I mean, for Centrelink. 1765 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,880 For Centrelink, that's not bad. 1766 01:13:46,620 --> 01:13:46,940 Right. 1767 01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:49,120 But it needs to get up to around 50. 1768 01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:50,700 It'd be nice to get to 75. 1769 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:52,080 Okay. 1770 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,320 For downspeed, right? 1771 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:54,520 Yes. 1772 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:54,920 Okay. 1773 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:55,160 Yeah. 1774 01:13:55,220 --> 01:13:56,540 You're not doing that with Centrelink. 1775 01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,740 What area of town are you in? 1776 01:14:00,540 --> 01:14:00,960 Northwest. 1777 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:01,700 Northwest. 1778 01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:02,280 Orange Grove Oracle. 1779 01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:02,960 All right. 1780 01:14:02,980 --> 01:14:04,780 So, you're looking at Comcast. 1781 01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:09,480 And Comcast does offer a... 1782 01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:10,320 What is that? 1783 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,020 $45 plan? 1784 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:11,440 Yeah. 1785 01:14:11,540 --> 01:14:14,740 I'll tell you that I lived almost exactly where you're talking about not too long ago. 1786 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:15,820 I had Comcast. 1787 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,880 I paid 50 bucks a month, and I got over 40 megs. 1788 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:20,680 So, yeah. 1789 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,020 You add another $10 or $15 a month, and you get a lot more go. 1790 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,900 And Centrelink is... 1791 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:31,500 Hold on. 1792 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,020 What's the disclaimer? 1793 01:14:32,260 --> 01:14:33,860 Everything that I say is my opinion. 1794 01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:36,640 It does not necessarily represent this radio station or computer guru. 1795 01:14:38,020 --> 01:14:38,960 God, they're terrible. 1796 01:14:39,260 --> 01:14:39,500 Yeah. 1797 01:14:39,540 --> 01:14:41,500 I was going to say, you know, you asked him if he had any other options. 1798 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:42,420 I was like, clearly not. 1799 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:43,820 He's on Centrelink. 1800 01:14:45,740 --> 01:14:50,280 It's just I have never had good experience with Centrelink Internet. 1801 01:14:51,060 --> 01:14:51,460 Okay. 1802 01:14:51,860 --> 01:14:52,940 I try to get everybody off of it. 1803 01:14:53,460 --> 01:14:54,060 Could I... 1804 01:14:54,060 --> 01:14:56,540 If I needed to, could I just pop up a Yagi? 1805 01:14:56,900 --> 01:14:57,300 Yeah. 1806 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:57,800 Yeah. 1807 01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:58,120 Yeah. 1808 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1809 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1810 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1811 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1812 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1813 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1814 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1815 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1816 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1817 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1818 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1819 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1820 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1821 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1822 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:58,120 1823 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,400 Could I find a Comcast Wi-Fi system? 1824 01:15:01,420 --> 01:15:02,620 Like a hotspot? 1825 01:15:03,340 --> 01:15:03,820 Problem? 1826 01:15:04,060 --> 01:15:04,840 Yes, a hotspot. 1827 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,600 Well, Comcast does that. 1828 01:15:06,780 --> 01:15:07,200 Yeah. 1829 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,580 You could probably do that. 1830 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:10,160 Okay. 1831 01:15:10,260 --> 01:15:13,360 And they make directional antennas for Wi-Fi, for sure. 1832 01:15:14,020 --> 01:15:14,500 Yeah. 1833 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,840 And if I need to, could I... 1834 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:22,720 Probably it would be easier just for me to bring the desktops down to you guys to do all the important upgrades. 1835 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:23,280 Right. 1836 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:23,920 Yeah. 1837 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,640 The problem is right now, at least at the current cycle, 1838 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,200 where you're at with Windows 10, 1839 01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:33,940 is that there are large critical updates happening about every week. 1840 01:15:35,380 --> 01:15:36,340 So, yeah. 1841 01:15:36,620 --> 01:15:37,100 Yeah. 1842 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,340 That'll calm down eventually, but... 1843 01:15:39,340 --> 01:15:44,600 But will their servers pick up the speed enough to where it'll do the job? 1844 01:15:44,980 --> 01:15:46,920 Well, luckily they're doing something called... 1845 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,280 It's like torrenting. 1846 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,640 They're doing peer-to-peer with the Windows 10 upgrades or updates. 1847 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,120 Mm-hmm. 1848 01:15:52,140 --> 01:15:55,520 So those updates are available all over the place. 1849 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:57,180 And so it's pretty quick. 1850 01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:00,940 And I've never had a problem with slow updates. 1851 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:03,600 But anyway. 1852 01:16:03,780 --> 01:16:04,080 Got it. 1853 01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:06,620 So if you want to bring it down, we can do the upgrades for you. 1854 01:16:06,620 --> 01:16:07,340 That's not a big deal. 1855 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,640 I would suggest that you guys switch over to Comcast if possible. 1856 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,440 You could go the other route of building a crazy antenna, 1857 01:16:14,620 --> 01:16:17,720 but I think that you will have paid for the difference in cost 1858 01:16:18,420 --> 01:16:23,480 just by getting a nice directional Wi-Fi antenna for a year. 1859 01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:27,300 So just get off CenturyLink, man. 1860 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:27,700 Come on. 1861 01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:29,740 Okay. 1862 01:16:29,860 --> 01:16:30,300 Will do. 1863 01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:30,800 All right. 1864 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:31,980 I'll talk to you later. 1865 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,700 You know, that poses a very important question, though. 1866 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,380 What is it? 1867 01:16:35,420 --> 01:16:40,480 If you start your Windows 10 download and it doesn't finish until after the free date ends, 1868 01:16:40,660 --> 01:16:41,740 is it still free? 1869 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:43,880 I believe that it is. 1870 01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:47,160 CenturyLink takes a month to download it. 1871 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,080 I believe that it is. 1872 01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:50,560 I think all you have to do is start the process. 1873 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,220 Yeah, I was just joking. 1874 01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:54,620 I mean, it's a valid question. 1875 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,620 For some users, apparently it is. 1876 01:16:57,620 --> 01:16:58,100 You know, for some users. 1877 01:16:58,100 --> 01:16:58,100 1878 01:16:58,100 --> 01:16:58,600 CenturyLink users. 1879 01:16:59,300 --> 01:17:00,800 You know, you got to know. 1880 01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:01,780 You got to wonder. 1881 01:17:01,940 --> 01:17:05,820 We got to open up a guru internet cafe where people can just come and download Windows 10. 1882 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,880 I thought about doing that. 1883 01:17:06,940 --> 01:17:08,460 I thought maybe we'd talk with Black Crown 1884 01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:13,460 and see if we can do like a joint venture for coffee shop slash... 1885 01:17:13,460 --> 01:17:14,460 Guru internet. 1886 01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:15,660 Yeah, basically. 1887 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,760 If Google Fiber ever comes to Tucson. 1888 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,460 Yeah, there's not a whole lot of hope for that. 1889 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,760 It just depresses me every time I hear Google Fiber. 1890 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,900 What's the limit on Ethernet viability? 1891 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:27,200 Is it 100 miles? 1892 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,320 Can we drag a cable down from Phoenix? 1893 01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:30,200 No, no. 1894 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,020 It's 300 feet, which is terrible. 1895 01:17:32,340 --> 01:17:33,300 It's not going to work. 1896 01:17:33,380 --> 01:17:35,000 That's not even close to long enough. 1897 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:36,840 All right. 1898 01:17:36,980 --> 01:17:37,860 All right. 1899 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:38,960 So there's a question in the chat. 1900 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,900 And by the way, if you want to go to the chat, you can go to gurushow.com slash chat. 1901 01:17:43,060 --> 01:17:49,600 And they're asking, what effect will net neutrality have on the mom and pop ISPs here, like SimplyBits and stuff like that? 1902 01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:55,760 He heard that it would put stress on them because they're not big enough to compete with the utilities. 1903 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:56,840 Is this true? 1904 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:06,840 Well, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most of those mom and pop ISPs, as that person put it, they're just reselling other ISPs, right? 1905 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:08,140 Well, yeah. 1906 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:09,740 I mean, everybody resells the backbone. 1907 01:18:09,980 --> 01:18:10,160 Yeah. 1908 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:22,120 But as an example, SimplyBits uses both the Comcast network, or I'm sorry, the Cox network and the Centrelink network to do their thing. 1909 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,820 And depending on where their towers are at, those also have to connect to a larger network. 1910 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,300 Like Verizon, as an example. 1911 01:18:29,180 --> 01:18:31,360 Verizon has towers all over Tucson. 1912 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:44,340 And those Verizon towers are connected not only amongst each other, right, directly, but they also have, like, Cox connections going into them to help provide bandwidth for your 4G. 1913 01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:49,620 So there's an interconnectedness that goes on with all of the ISPs. 1914 01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:57,040 Now, luckily, I know some people who happen to own a mom and pop. 1915 01:18:58,220 --> 01:19:07,940 And rather than me kind of talking out of my butt on this one, I will set up a meeting to go talk to them and ask them what they think and what their struggles are, and I'll get back to you. 1916 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,740 Maybe we can get one of them on the show. 1917 01:19:10,780 --> 01:19:11,140 That'd be cool. 1918 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,020 That would be nice. 1919 01:19:12,980 --> 01:19:13,480 All right. 1920 01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:16,200 Do we want to take some calls here, or do we want to do a break? 1921 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:16,800 They're stacking up. 1922 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:18,040 All right. 1923 01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:18,460 You pick one. 1924 01:19:18,740 --> 01:19:19,360 Put it on there. 1925 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:21,500 All right. 1926 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:21,920 Luxanne. 1927 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:22,500 Hello, Luxanne. 1928 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:22,840 How are you? 1929 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:24,740 I'm good. 1930 01:19:25,020 --> 01:19:26,820 Thank you for the tip. 1931 01:19:26,820 --> 01:19:32,140 It's on getting my speed faster after converting to Windows 10. 1932 01:19:32,420 --> 01:19:37,940 Getting rid of the combating spyware really helped. 1933 01:19:38,260 --> 01:19:38,740 Excellent. 1934 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:39,420 Glad to hear it. 1935 01:19:39,860 --> 01:19:41,760 I have a new question. 1936 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:52,320 I recently retired, and my $29.99 DirecTV and CenturyNet interlink now is almost $120 a month. 1937 01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:56,780 And with my retirement, that would equal about 10% of my retirement. 1938 01:19:56,820 --> 01:20:04,460 So I wanted to find out if there is a low-cost Internet service, and I'm going to... 1939 01:20:04,460 --> 01:20:06,120 I have a converter box in a Roku. 1940 01:20:06,460 --> 01:20:12,060 I can live without TV, but I desperately need to have some sort of Internet, primarily to 1941 01:20:12,060 --> 01:20:16,700 do email and a little Facebook here and there. 1942 01:20:17,180 --> 01:20:23,980 I'm not somebody who streams videos on my computer, but I'm looking for something that's 1943 01:20:23,980 --> 01:20:25,380 reasonable and reliable. 1944 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:26,480 Okay. 1945 01:20:26,500 --> 01:20:26,800 Just for my own personal use. 1946 01:20:26,820 --> 01:20:33,540 I would say that, speaking of the mom-and-pop ISPs, depending on where you're at, what area 1947 01:20:33,540 --> 01:20:34,100 of town are you in? 1948 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,840 I am right across from Flowing Wells High School. 1949 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:37,420 Okay. 1950 01:20:39,260 --> 01:20:44,220 So CenturyLink does offer sort of the cheapest Internet in town, because they have to, right? 1951 01:20:44,300 --> 01:20:45,420 As far as... 1952 01:20:46,740 --> 01:20:48,100 Yeah, they just have to, right? 1953 01:20:48,180 --> 01:20:50,120 It's the cheapest Internet out there is CenturyLink. 1954 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:55,260 But because of your previous bundling packages, and they keep raising the rates all the time. 1955 01:20:55,340 --> 01:20:55,660 Yeah. 1956 01:20:55,660 --> 01:20:55,820 So... 1957 01:20:55,820 --> 01:20:56,220 Yeah. 1958 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:56,640 Yeah. 1959 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:56,800 Yeah. 1960 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:56,800 1961 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:56,800 1962 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:56,800 1963 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:56,800 1964 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:56,800 1965 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:56,800 1966 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:56,800 1967 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:56,800 1968 01:20:56,820 --> 01:20:57,020 That's what I mentioned. 1969 01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,060 Look at SimplyBits. 1970 01:20:59,140 --> 01:21:04,940 They offer a residential package, which I think is, it's like 1.5 meg or 3 meg, and 1971 01:21:04,940 --> 01:21:05,860 it's $20 a month. 1972 01:21:06,580 --> 01:21:06,980 Wow. 1973 01:21:08,020 --> 01:21:08,820 That's incredible. 1974 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:13,080 The downside is that there's an upfront cost to them, because they have to put an antenna 1975 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:13,740 up at your house. 1976 01:21:13,980 --> 01:21:19,400 So you're looking at it like a $300 investment, but it's a one-time, you never pay anything 1977 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,360 like that again, and then it's $20 a month from there to, as far as I know, the end of 1978 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:23,580 eternity. 1979 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:25,640 Yeah. 1980 01:21:25,700 --> 01:21:26,660 That's incredible. 1981 01:21:26,820 --> 01:21:33,300 That's incredible, because that's less than three months of my Cox, I mean, my CenturyLink 1982 01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:42,020 and DirecTV, and I've been putting it off, but I need to downprice myself. 1983 01:21:42,860 --> 01:21:44,840 So are they open on Saturdays? 1984 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:46,620 I don't know. 1985 01:21:46,740 --> 01:21:48,500 I don't know if they're open on Saturdays. 1986 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,700 545-0400 is their phone number, I think. 1987 01:21:54,140 --> 01:21:55,020 545-0400. 1988 01:21:55,060 --> 01:21:55,980 Hopefully I got that right. 1989 01:21:55,980 --> 01:21:57,980 You can also just go to SimplyBits.com. 1990 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,080 Yeah, SimplyBits.com is also the alternative there. 1991 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:02,140 Okay. 1992 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,260 Well, thank you so much. 1993 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,260 You have a good weekend. 1994 01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:04,880 You too. 1995 01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:05,640 Thank you for the call. 1996 01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:06,020 Happy Father's Day. 1997 01:22:06,380 --> 01:22:07,980 Oh, there's a Happy Father's Day in there. 1998 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:09,180 I wonder how she knew. 1999 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:09,940 All right. 2000 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,700 We'll be right back after these messages. 2001 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,400 Your computer guru, Mike Swanson. 2002 01:22:24,340 --> 01:22:25,400 . . . 2003 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:25,960 . . . 2004 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2005 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2006 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2007 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2008 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2009 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2010 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2011 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2012 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2013 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2014 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2015 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2016 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2017 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2018 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2019 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2020 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2021 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:25,960 2022 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,460 Right now at gurushow.com or call in. 2023 01:22:28,540 --> 01:22:32,020 This is the Computer Guru Show on KVOY, The Voice. 2024 01:22:43,980 --> 01:22:47,080 Mike Swanson, your computer guru, is just a click away. 2025 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,620 Listen and watch at gurushow.com. 2026 01:22:49,900 --> 01:22:51,900 This is the Computer Guru Show. 2027 01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:56,440 Welcome back to the Computer Guru Show 7902040. 2028 01:22:56,460 --> 01:22:59,860 If you want to be part of the show, let's talk to Ron, who's been waiting very patiently. 2029 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:00,980 Hello, Ron. How are you? 2030 01:23:02,300 --> 01:23:03,740 Hey, hope you're doing okay. 2031 01:23:04,060 --> 01:23:05,000 I'm doing lovely. 2032 01:23:06,780 --> 01:23:13,900 On Windows 10, I have a whole heck of a lot of programs and games that work on 7. 2033 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,620 So would that be a problem if I changed? 2034 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,920 Depends on the games. 2035 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:20,140 Games? 2036 01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:22,380 Most of the time, no. 2037 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:24,820 We haven't seen too many problems with... 2038 01:23:25,220 --> 01:23:31,980 There are issues with video drivers and the way video behaves between 7 and 10, 2039 01:23:32,060 --> 01:23:33,000 depending on your card. 2040 01:23:33,580 --> 01:23:36,320 Specifically with the high-end NVIDIA cards, I've seen some issues. 2041 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,540 What kind of video card do you have? 2042 01:23:39,340 --> 01:23:41,220 It's a high-end NVIDIA card. 2043 01:23:41,420 --> 01:23:44,500 Right, so if you have the GeForce experience on your machine, that should go. 2044 01:23:45,940 --> 01:23:49,020 I personally, right as you're about to do the upgrade, 2045 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,640 I found it worked out a whole lot better for me 2046 01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:56,300 that right when I told it to go ahead and do the upgrade, 2047 01:23:56,460 --> 01:23:58,840 I also uninstalled the video driver. 2048 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:04,260 And then it reinstalled it upon reboot after doing the Windows 10 upgrade, 2049 01:24:04,380 --> 01:24:05,280 and everything worked fine. 2050 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,580 I'll say that as far as gaming goes, because of that exact issue, 2051 01:24:09,380 --> 01:24:11,440 what worked for me was just doing a fresh install. 2052 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,160 Because if you're using Steam games, you can reassociate them after the install. 2053 01:24:15,220 --> 01:24:16,060 You don't have to re-download them. 2054 01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:19,900 Okay, do you mean NVIDIA reinstalled? 2055 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:24,140 It reinstalls the driver for the game or Windows 10? 2056 01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:28,740 So Windows 10 will install its own NVIDIA driver after you do an upgrade. 2057 01:24:28,980 --> 01:24:31,500 And then from there, you can go ahead and put on any, 2058 01:24:31,660 --> 01:24:34,820 like if you're using a beta driver or using the experience driver, 2059 01:24:35,020 --> 01:24:36,220 you can put that back on yourself. 2060 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,340 However, the experience driver, we have seen lots of problems 2061 01:24:40,340 --> 01:24:42,540 where if it's installed prior to upgrade, 2062 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,280 it breaks the crap out of the video settings after the upgrade. 2063 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,160 What's the experience driver? 2064 01:24:50,220 --> 01:24:52,100 Well, if you're not using it, then that's good. 2065 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,240 That means you don't have to uninstall it. 2066 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:57,880 But it's sort of like a universal driver for NVIDIA. 2067 01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:58,980 Okay. 2068 01:24:59,380 --> 01:25:05,420 So Windows 10 knows which driver goes to my NVIDIA card? 2069 01:25:05,780 --> 01:25:11,400 There is a basic NVIDIA WHQL driver that Microsoft definitely knows about. 2070 01:25:11,940 --> 01:25:14,380 It's a GeForce driver, so that wouldn't be a problem? 2071 01:25:14,620 --> 01:25:14,820 No. 2072 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:19,740 Well, you'll still want to get your NVIDIA update for your card specifically, 2073 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,020 after the install, because your performance on your NVIDIA card 2074 01:25:23,020 --> 01:25:23,980 could be affected if you don't. 2075 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,640 But as far as that goes, if you're upgrading, just get rid of it for now, 2076 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,020 and then you can fix it after the install. 2077 01:25:29,540 --> 01:25:29,980 Okay. 2078 01:25:30,020 --> 01:25:33,500 But does Windows 10 use more RAM than 7? 2079 01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,660 In my experience, it's about the same. 2080 01:25:37,340 --> 01:25:42,480 Now, I mean, I've got sort of like a video editing rig that I did the upgrade on, 2081 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:47,680 and it's got 32 gigs of RAM on it, so I didn't really notice any difference at all. 2082 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:48,600 Okay. 2083 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:48,880 Okay. 2084 01:25:49,260 --> 01:25:49,420 Okay. 2085 01:25:49,460 --> 01:25:49,900 Okay. 2086 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2087 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2088 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2089 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2090 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2091 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2092 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2093 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2094 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2095 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2096 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2097 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2098 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2099 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:49,900 2100 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,640 Because the Windows, like my laptop here is Windows 10, 2101 01:25:54,560 --> 01:26:01,160 and I noticed that Chrome uses more RAM after the upgrade than it did before, 2102 01:26:01,380 --> 01:26:02,740 and more CPU for that matter, too. 2103 01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:07,120 So there is some sort of a penalty, a tradeoff there, 2104 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:11,460 but I don't think it's enough that it needs to be warned about, like in the Vista era. 2105 01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:15,260 So you're saying certain programs, it differs by the program? 2106 01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:17,560 It appears to be differing by the program. 2107 01:26:18,260 --> 01:26:19,840 Do you know what, like the official? 2108 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,640 The official usage is per each OS? 2109 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:24,760 Off the top of my head, no. 2110 01:26:24,860 --> 01:26:25,240 I'm sorry. 2111 01:26:25,460 --> 01:26:25,720 Okay. 2112 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:26,480 Okay. 2113 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,640 But I don't think that, I mean, if you get a reasonable machine and you're playing games on it now, 2114 01:26:32,140 --> 01:26:35,140 you're probably not going to notice any performance impact 2115 01:26:35,140 --> 01:26:39,840 as long as you don't have your antivirus on there during the upgrade 2116 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,100 and you deal with the video stuff beforehand. 2117 01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,240 Yeah, you said Conspiracy uses a lot of resources. 2118 01:26:48,340 --> 01:26:48,920 Resources help out. 2119 01:26:49,980 --> 01:26:50,380 Panda. 2120 01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:55,900 Panda's not, my biggest problem with Panda is that it was irritating. 2121 01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,540 But it's a decent antivirus, and it's nice and lightweight, and it's fast. 2122 01:27:01,900 --> 01:27:06,700 So I have no issue with Panda as long as you go in and put it in, like, gaming mode 2123 01:27:06,700 --> 01:27:09,120 so it doesn't give you a million updates every second. 2124 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:10,280 Yeah, it's trying to sell you something. 2125 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,180 The reason why it's lighter is because it's more web-based, isn't it? 2126 01:27:13,620 --> 01:27:14,480 Well, sort of. 2127 01:27:14,480 --> 01:27:16,660 That's sort of a misnomer with all those web-based ones. 2128 01:27:16,780 --> 01:27:19,280 They, they, it does. 2129 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:23,900 It does less as far as, like, Kaspersky is concerned, or compared to Kaspersky. 2130 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:24,840 So. 2131 01:27:25,780 --> 01:27:28,300 It does less, you mean, on your machine as far as. 2132 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,060 Yeah, I mean, it's monitoring less things. 2133 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,220 It's, it's checking less things, and it uses a smaller database than Kaspersky 2134 01:27:34,220 --> 01:27:35,580 because of that online feature. 2135 01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:37,100 That's not necessarily bad. 2136 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,460 I think that, I think that if you're going to do something, you should do it well, right? 2137 01:27:40,980 --> 01:27:41,420 Right. 2138 01:27:41,420 --> 01:27:47,720 And what I like about the antivirus-only antiviruses is that they do one thing, 2139 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,260 and they hopefully should. 2140 01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:50,160 They strive to do that well. 2141 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:56,220 Whereas Kaspersky and Norton and McAfee and these other larger suites, 2142 01:27:56,240 --> 01:28:00,540 even Avast to a certain extent these days, they want to do all these things. 2143 01:28:00,620 --> 01:28:04,280 They want to check your spam and your email, and they want to, 2144 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,640 they want to look for your privacy information. 2145 01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:08,060 Too many features. 2146 01:28:08,260 --> 01:28:10,160 Right, and all these features have a cost. 2147 01:28:10,340 --> 01:28:11,940 Jack of all trades, but master of none. 2148 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,180 Right, so I just, I just want a good antivirus. 2149 01:28:14,220 --> 01:28:14,500 That's it. 2150 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,620 So, so you're saying Penn is more specialized on that one purpose? 2151 01:28:17,820 --> 01:28:18,840 Well, I hope so. 2152 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:19,060 Otherwise. 2153 01:28:19,260 --> 01:28:23,180 Because it has no purpose on the machine at all, because they purport to only be an antivirus. 2154 01:28:23,540 --> 01:28:27,180 Now, they do offer a firewall add-on in their paid version, but who needs that? 2155 01:28:28,020 --> 01:28:28,380 Right. 2156 01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:29,060 Okay. 2157 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,420 Yeah, because Windows has its own, its own firewall, right? 2158 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,540 Windows does have a firewall, and it is very configurable, 2159 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,680 especially if you go into the advanced version. 2160 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,340 So, yeah, you've got lots of options. 2161 01:28:38,540 --> 01:28:38,900 But. 2162 01:28:39,020 --> 01:28:39,380 Okay. 2163 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:40,540 I appreciate the call, Ron. 2164 01:28:40,820 --> 01:28:41,440 Cool, thanks. 2165 01:28:41,660 --> 01:28:43,600 It turns out that we ran out of time in our second hour. 2166 01:28:44,440 --> 01:28:45,120 What's up with that? 2167 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:46,140 What's up with that? 2168 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:46,780 We're out of time. 2169 01:28:46,860 --> 01:28:47,460 Out of time. 2170 01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:49,000 All right. 2171 01:28:49,260 --> 01:28:55,120 So, let's mention our sponsor that we didn't mention last time, which is Desert Pro Commercial Cleaners. 2172 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,700 They are a Patreon sponsor, and you can be too. 2173 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,120 You can even make Tara say whatever you want. 2174 01:29:00,140 --> 01:29:00,320 Right. 2175 01:29:00,420 --> 01:29:01,080 Or me. 2176 01:29:01,180 --> 01:29:09,080 The rule is, is that if you donated a certain amount, Tara has to say whatever it is that you want her to say, 2177 01:29:09,140 --> 01:29:11,680 providing it's FCC friendly and won't get us in trouble. 2178 01:29:11,820 --> 01:29:16,000 We're really hoping that somebody is going to just have something hilarious for her to say. 2179 01:29:16,060 --> 01:29:16,940 I would love that. 2180 01:29:17,980 --> 01:29:18,380 But. 2181 01:29:18,380 --> 01:29:19,960 But take an opportunity to support the show. 2182 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,240 Now that the show is even longer. 2183 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:21,940 Yep. 2184 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,940 It costs a little bit more, so we're going to need your help to keep it on the air. 2185 01:29:26,140 --> 01:29:30,480 Go to gurushow.com slash Patreon or patreon.com slash gurushow. 2186 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:31,280 Works either way. 2187 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,760 I would also like to take a moment to tell you to go subscribe to our YouTube channel, 2188 01:29:34,860 --> 01:29:38,200 because I'm putting a lot of work into that, and we're going to do all kinds of cool stuff with it. 2189 01:29:38,220 --> 01:29:42,540 But we need to get a certain number of subscribers before we can do some of those things. 2190 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:47,260 So, make me happy and go to gurushow.com, click the YouTube icon, and subscribe. 2191 01:29:47,620 --> 01:29:48,200 Not to mention. 2192 01:29:48,380 --> 01:29:50,220 There's going to be a whole bunch of giveaways coming up, 2193 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:55,420 where we're going to give away something each month to someone who happens to be a YouTube subscriber. 2194 01:29:56,100 --> 01:30:00,140 And maybe they have to be, you know, liked on the Facebook and all of that. 2195 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:05,380 There's going to be some requirements, but if you want free stuff, sign up and tell your friends to sign up, too. 2196 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:10,520 Also, visit our shop at 510 East Fort Lowell or 64 North Harrison, 2197 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,060 or give us a call at 304-8300. 2198 01:30:13,540 --> 01:30:16,960 Visit the website at azcomputerguru.com. 2199 01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:17,640 Thanks. 2200 01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:17,780 Thanks. 2201 01:30:17,780 --> 01:30:18,680 We'll see you next week. 2202 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,140 I'm going to go to bed. 2203 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,100 I'm going to go to bed. 2204 01:30:24,100 --> 01:30:24,500 I'm going to go to bed. 2205 01:30:24,500 --> 01:30:24,600 I'm going to go to bed.