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From my heart and from my hand, why don't people understand my intention?

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Computer running slow?

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Avoiding.

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Caught a virus?

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What?

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No!

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Where?

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Where?

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Does your computer seem to have a life of its own?

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Malfunction.

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Need input.

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The Computer Guru is here.

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My God, you're here!

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Call in now.

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Now, it's Mike Swanson, your Computer Guru.

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Hello and welcome to the Computer Guru Show.

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My name is Mike, here to deal with your technology needs and treat you like a person in the process.

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790-2040.

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If you'd like to be part of the show, that's 520-790-2040.

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And we'll help you out with whatever technology issues are ailing you.

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Because that's what we do around here.

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This week is Rob is in.

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Hello, Rob.

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Hi, how's it going?

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And then we've got Kent over there pushing buttons.

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Good morning.

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Doing his thing.

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And we've got new stuff to play during the breaks.

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It feels like I can feel the energy today.

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Yeah?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's not bad.

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What kind of energy is it, though?

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Hopefully good energy, because we're going to need it.

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Yeah.

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There's going to be...

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We're doing the filming stage of Destruction of Furbies today.

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Finally.

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And so that's going to be fun.

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And hopefully nobody gets injured.

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Yeah, I'm really hoping that we can walk away from this literally.

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Right.

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Unscathed.

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Right.

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Although your mom said that she's going to take you out.

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She's going to get hurt.

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She's going to kill me.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I was like, that seems like an escalation that doesn't make sense, but all right.

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She goes, that's my job.

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Right on.

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So if I even get a paper cut today, that's it for me.

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You're a goner, man.

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Yeah, I guess so.

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You have to go on the lam.

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Well, yeah, my girlfriend said that there's going to be a line of people to injure me

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if I get injured.

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Oh, really?

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You're going to take a number?

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Apparently.

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All the women in my life are violent.

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All right.

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7-9-0-20-40 if you want to be part of the show.

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All right.

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This show kind of feels like a follow-up show.

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Oh, yeah?

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Because we're talking about a lot of things that have been talked about before.

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Yeah, we're going to be kind of bringing up stuff that we've talked about before and

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said that we would eventually follow up with.

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And some of those things are good.

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Some of those things are not so good.

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Right.

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Some of these things are, I didn't want to talk about them again, necessarily.

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Yeah, I was really hoping that we wouldn't have to.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, let's start with one that we didn't have to.

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I just wish we didn't have to talk about before.

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And I just wish we didn't have to talk about now.

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Which would be Pizza Hut.

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It's just dumb.

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Yeah.

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You know, a lot of times I feel that you're almost like a little bit curmudgeon-y with

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some of the stuff that we talk about.

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Right.

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But in this case, I'm with you.

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This is dumb.

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So Pizza Hut has some shoes that you can buy.

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They are sort of retro-looking shoes.

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They're high-tops, but they call them pie-tops.

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And there's a button in the tongue of the shoe that allows you to order.

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You can order a large pizza.

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It's effectively an Amazon Dash button built into shoes.

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And it's not even the coolest use of an Amazon Dash button that we've talked about recently.

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No.

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Even the donating to, what was it?

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The swear jar?

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Yeah, the swear jar.

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Even that was better than this.

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Yeah, you press a button and pizza gets ordered.

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My question, though, is that if you're in a place long enough for a pizza to be delivered to you,

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why are you wearing these absurd shoes?

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Yeah, they're kind of dumb-looking.

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It's so dumb!

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You could really mess with your friend who has these by just, like, punching him in the tongue of his shoe.

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Yeah, they said that there's some type of, uh, you won't accidentally order pizza.

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They've got some sort of security built in.

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I can't think of a situation in which I will need enough pizza that it'll justify.

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Yeah, I don't order pizza enough.

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Right.

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I would even have a Dash-style button.

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I wouldn't.

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I don't know about even having a button.

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I would have to have the app on your phone, you know?

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Right, and then beyond that, I don't order pizza enough to especially get a aforementioned Dash-style button

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built into a pair of relatively ugly tennis shoes.

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Not to mention that you've got to think about the back end here.

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So this means that not only do you order pizza enough to have these shoes,

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but, like, you have a pre-defined order that you like enough to have stored.

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What if you get tired of whatever type of pizza you're having?

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Well, I think the only way that I would get one of these is if I could program it.

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I think that's a good way to order from Brooklyn's.

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Yeah, I could.

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Because Brooklyn's pizza is worth ordering from.

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No, it's still not often enough, though.

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No, that's true.

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I can't think of anything that I need so often that I would want it built into my shoe.

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Yeah, the only problem with Brooklyn's, though, I mean, they've got amazing pizza

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and the best garlic knots in town.

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But the problem is I think they have a delivery radius of, like,

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Two feet?

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Yeah, 45 feet or something.

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Skybar right next door?

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That's about it.

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Come on, guys.

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It's because they have to ride the trolley.

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It's everywhere.

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Well, maybe we'll get Uber Eats here in town at some point.

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Oh, Brooklyn's.

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The solar-powered pizza cafe.

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Speaking of solar power, we've got some news about that.

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What about it, man?

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Apparently, at least in 2016, solar provided twice as many jobs as the coal industry in the United States.

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Wow.

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It's looking sunny.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's a good thing, you know?

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I mean, I'm all in favor of solar.

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I am, too.

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I think that this is probably a very good thing.

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I like solar energy.

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It's hot.

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I'm the one who's supposed to be doing the corny jokes, okay?

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Oh, man.

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I'm in a mood, though.

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I'm in a mood.

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What can I say?

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I know we switched roles.

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I don't even have a corny joke to make.

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Oh, okay.

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You just have to sit there and be curmudgeoning?

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I guess so.

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You're the curmudgeoning one today.

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The Pizza Hut shoes, like, ruined it for me.

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Oh, okay.

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So, Mike, what are we talking about next?

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Well, I did want to talk about...

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I did want to talk about Ryzen again, but we'll wait to get into that, because it's

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kind of a whole thing, and we already have a caller.

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They want to talk about shoes and pizza and stuff.

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All right.

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Let's talk...

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Bren?

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Hello, Bren.

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How are you?

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You got to hit the button.

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No, the call button.

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They're on hold still.

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There you go.

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Hi.

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One of those buttons.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Thanks for taking my call.

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I just wanted to know, if you have those shoes, do the pizzas come laced or unlaced?

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That's a good question.

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And do they know where to go?

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Because, I mean, what if you're out at the basketball court shooting hoops and playing

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horse with your friends?

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I imagine it must have some type of...

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Because it has to have, like, 4G or something built in in order for the order to even happen.

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Yeah, that would suck if you have to be within Wi-Fi range of your house.

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You know, I bet I could hack it so I could put Pyrmonics in there and get their pizza.

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Well, that would be nice.

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I think I'd still prefer the Amazon Dash button, because you could, like, put that on a keychain.

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It'd be way more...

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And these shoes are terrible looking, too, so...

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They're kind of ugly.

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We'll put them in the show notes so you can see them.

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I think if you order them and put them away in 10 years, they might be worth something,

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because no one's popping it up.

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That's probably true.

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Order them.

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That's probably true.

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Their value is mostly as a collector's item.

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Yeah.

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Thanks for taking my call, Scott.

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Yeah, thanks.

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And Pizza Hut's been doing the whole, like, you know, using technology as a gimmick for

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a long time.

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I mean, if they're just doing this as a promotional thing, whatever, if they really expect for

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the...

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I don't think they really expect for this to be a thing.

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I don't either.

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You know, besides...

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Even if they do expect it, it's not going to be...

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Stop trying to make it happen.

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I heard that McDonald's was considering doing delivery, so maybe their shoes would be...

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Like, I'd have, like, a spicy McChicken shoe thing, I guess, maybe.

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A spicy McChicken shoe.

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Yeah.

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Like, I could want a $1 item from McDonald's far more frequently than I would want a pizza,

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you know?

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I don't know.

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It's a toss-up for me.

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I know me gusta on equal levels.

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Do not want.

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Say what you will about everything else at McDonald's, but the spicy McChicken's pretty

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good.

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The spicy chicken is not bad, with the exception of the non-chicken parts of...

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I always have to tell them I'm allergic to lettuce, though, because their lettuce is

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terrible, and I don't want any of that.

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Yeah.

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It's like...

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Oh.

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It's like reconstituted, and it's terrible.

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Yeah, it's horrible.

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When I said iceberg lettuce, I didn't mean it was in a freezer for, like, 10 hours.

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There you go.

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You got your mojo back.

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Yeah.

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There it is.

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You can be the silly one now.

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All right.

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Let's take a moment.

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I forgot to mention our sponsor.

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That would be Perfection Auto Works.

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They can do wonderful things for your vehicle, and you should probably check them out.

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Maybe they should make, like, an oil change shoe button.

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Oh, yeah.

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Mike, get an oil change...

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Make Perfection Auto Works shoes.

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See, if you had an Amazon Dash button, you could put it on your dash.

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I have to...

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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I think foosball is a combination of soccer and shish kebabs.

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Foosball messed up my perception of soccer.

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I thought you had to kick the ball and then spin round and round.

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I can't do a backflip, much less several.

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Simultaneously with two other guys that look just like me.

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I was on the bus and it was the middle of the night, and I had a box of crackers and

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I had a can of Easy Cheese.

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But it was the middle of the night, so I could not see.

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So I could not see how much Easy Cheese I was applying to each cracker.

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So each bite into the cracker was a surprise as to how much Easy Cheese I had applied.

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Which makes me believe they should have a glow-in-the-dark version of Easy Cheese.

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It's not like the product has any integrity to begin with.

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If you buy a room temperature cheese that you squeeze out of a can,

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you probably won't get mad because it glows in the dark as well.

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Your computer guru, Mike Swanson, is here to help you tame that beast of a machine.

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This is the Computer Guru Show.

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Welcome back to the Computer Guru Show.

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Let's go ahead and talk about the fact that everyone in the federal government is an idiot.

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Is this news?

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Well, apparently.

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So the FCC got a new chairman.

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Originally, we were a little concerned about Wheeler in the previous administration.

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We were like, we don't know about that.

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We don't know about Tom Wheeler because he used to lobby for the cellular industry.

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And he's probably going to mess some things up and make it so that consumers are hurt

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and the internet providers are super happy.

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And it turned out that he did exactly the opposite.

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He just angered every ISP and put rules into place that were supposed to keep us a little bit safer

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as far as the wallets were concerned.

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What?

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The new chairman of the FCC is not necessarily on board with Wheeler's plan.

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In fact, I would say that he's very much not.

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Yeah, and we had originally said, let's give this guy the benefit of the doubt.

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Let's see what he does.

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Maybe it'll turn out to be like Wheeler.

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No, not quite.

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Nope.

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His name is Ajit Pai.

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And he said that net neutrality was a mistake.

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And the commission is now on track to return to a much lighter style of regulation.

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Of course, this will make one of my listeners very happy, I'm sure.

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But he says some things that just don't make any sense to me.

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Well, unfortunately, I think most of the people who are proponents against net neutrality

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say a lot of things that don't make sense.

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Yeah.

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Basically, he says that, you know, look at how with the announcement of the return

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or basically of ending of net neutrality,

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now all of the providers are announcing that they're going to have,

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you know, unlimited data plans.

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And I think he's taking credit for something that he had absolutely nothing to do with.

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And I think that was all Wheeler basically saying, you have rules to follow.

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And if you want to, you know, compete, then you have to compete,

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rather than just being able to muscle a particular market or segment of users,

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which is the problem with net neutrality in the first place,

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where, you know, the lack of neutrality is that a provider then has the opportunity

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to, you know, have a lot of data plans.

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OK.

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OK.

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OK.

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OK.

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Now, of course, they don't really necessarily count things like DSL providers or the point-to-point wireless providers because, let's be honest, they're technically not able to compete with the cable providers or even the cellular providers if you happen to have one of those.

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But then you end up with a very expensive Internet bill and caps and overages and all of that stuff.

403
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Well, also, I mean, the cellular providers is what's making this whole situation a bit scary at the moment.

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Because, as you said, everybody seems to be reintroducing their unlimited plans at the moment.

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And a lot of these plans, if you look closely, are pretty anti-net neutrality.

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Yeah.

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Specifically, T-Mobile, who's had their binge-on thing for a while now, where certain streaming services don't count against your data cap.

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Right.

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And they mention those in the article, which is basically the zero tier, meaning that they don't count specific sets of data against your usage,

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which was exactly the thing that the…

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The net neutrality was trying to prevent.

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And they have been under investigation by the FCC specifically because of that plan.

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Not anymore because that stuff's now been enabled.

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You know, basically, the FCC says, yeah, you can go ahead and do that.

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You can go ahead and zero tier stuff where you can say anything that is on this particular platform that it doesn't charge…

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We're not going to charge you for or doesn't necessarily have to count against your data plan.

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And now that sounds really cool if you're already a member of one.

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Like, say you use Pandora's premium service or Spotify or something like that.

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Right.

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That sounds awesome.

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Like, why wouldn't I want to?

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I'm going to switch to T-Mobile and then I'll have unlimited data for that stuff.

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But you're not realizing that they're forcing you to stay on that platform essentially at that point.

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So if some new streaming service comes out and it's way better and T-Mobile decides that they don't want to carry that on their zero plan…

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Or that company decides that they can't afford to pay T-Mobile to be in that included plan.

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Because, yeah, make no mistake, they're charging those companies for that right.

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Right.

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Then, yeah, it's stifling competition.

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Or even scarier, in my opinion.

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T-Mobile decides that it wants to release its own service that you have to subscribe to.

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Right.

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If you want to listen to music, which a lot of people do on their phones, then, yeah, these particular couple of services are going to be provided for you with no additional fee.

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But if you want to watch those other ones, man, or listen to those other ones, it's going to cost you a little bit more.

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So you're less likely to do so.

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This is exactly the battle that we were talking about before with Comcast and Hulu versus Netflix.

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Yeah.

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And, of course, everyone that's on the other side of this argument is just like, well, let them compete.

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Do you know what Comcast is?

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I mean, have you seen NBCUniversal, what they – what is that company?

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I mean, they are everything.

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They're – I mean, Disney owns all is really what it comes down to.

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And so it's impossible, I think, to realistically think that you're going to be able to compete with someone.

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That is able to hold down that tier, right, that has that much clout that is just able to say, well, you're going to use my service.

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You're going to use nothing at all.

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And that's – or you'll be penalized for using something else.

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And this is why the net neutrality argument even came to light in the first place.

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But, you know, apparently nobody cares.

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Well, my issue is that I think that from what I've seen over the last few years, their plan is just to keep rephrasing the argument.

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Until people just stop caring.

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Right.

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Hypervigilance is very tiring.

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Yeah, it is.

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So, yeah.

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So apparently we're losing our net neutrality, at least for a while.

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Maybe permanently.

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Who knows?

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But when you wonder why that you want to watch that movie on Netflix or the next service that comes out after Netflix and you wonder why you can't afford it, this is why.

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And it's because the net neutrality argument was –

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Yeah.

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It's because the net neutrality argument was designed to make sure that everyone who wanted to provide a service was able to equally.

461
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We're going to have to take a look at how much piracy increases as a result of this.

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Oh, it will.

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It will a bit, in my opinion.

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I mean, yeah.

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When the choice is to pay for Pandora or Spotify or whatever T-Mobile service ends up being or whatever, or, you know, just spin up your own streaming media service, the choice is clear if you're able.

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Yep.

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And, you know, unfortunately I can't teach everyone how to do it, but, you know, it's – there are options.

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I might post some links in the show notes.

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There are options.

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And that's the good thing about the Internet, though, is that at least for the people who are willing to do a little bit of extra work involved in getting around this stuff, there's always a way.

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So it's interesting to me, but I'm very disappointed in the FCC.

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When it comes to the net neutrality decision here, to go back on something that is very, very, in my opinion, very helpful for the end user because it's forcing everyone to sort of live on – or play by the same rules.

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All of the providers have to play by the same rules under net neutrality, and now they don't.

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And so we'll see what happens with them.

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Let's go ahead and take a call here.

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We'll talk to Philip.

477
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Hey, Philip.

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Philip, how are you?

479
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Yeah, I went to Best Buy.

480
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I was going to buy a Galaxy Tab E for $250.

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Okay.

482
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And they sent me over to the AT&T store on Oracle, and they gave it to me for 99 cents.

483
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With your contract, right?

484
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Yes.

485
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I was going to get a contract anyway, so I'm wondering, is this thing going to blow up on me?

486
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Well, you know, it is a Samsung product, but no, it's probably not going to burst into flames.

487
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I'm just wondering, why would they give it to me?

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I mean –

489
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It's worth it to them to get you on the call.

490
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A contract is really what it comes down to.

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So, I mean –

492
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You mentioned the unlimited thing, which is now part of their deal.

493
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Of course, I've experienced what unlimited really means.

494
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It means nothing.

495
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Well, it depends on your provider.

496
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So, like – yeah, it depends on the provider.

497
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Some providers do the real, truly unlimited up to a certain point.

498
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I mean, up to an unreasonable point.

499
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I mean, 200 gigabytes for Verizon.

500
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I don't know about AT&T, but, yeah, Verizon does have a limit in place, technically.

501
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Right.

502
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So, it's – and the T-Mobile stuff does throttle you if you go over 23 gigabytes.

503
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So, there is a certain amount of congestion there, and I think it's unlimited within reason is the way that they're looking at it.

504
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But you don't think I'm being scammed somehow?

505
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I mean, why would they give it to me?

506
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Well, of course you're being scammed.

507
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You're in a contract.

508
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Yeah, that's the scam.

509
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Well, I was already going to go through a contract anyway.

510
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So, in your case, if you were already planning on going into a contract no matter what, it's a good deal?

511
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Right.

512
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All right.

513
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Right.

514
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If you're a person that is anti-contract like myself, then –

515
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I trust the guru.

516
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I wouldn't do it.

517
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But, you know, hey, if you're okay with the contract, if you want to be locked into that, you do that, man.

518
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You do you.

519
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Well, I've never had one before, so I'll see what happens.

520
00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:03,520
Thank you.

521
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,440
Yeah, they're fun.

522
00:21:04,540 --> 00:21:05,240
You'll enjoy it.

523
00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:07,760
You won't use it as much as you think you will, though.

524
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:10,700
Yeah, because you'll get tired of pressing the little buttons.

525
00:21:11,780 --> 00:21:15,020
Just tablet computing is really not all that pleasant.

526
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,680
I've – several times.

527
00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:19,460
I've really tried to, like, to be a tablet user.

528
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:20,780
And they're good.

529
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:28,140
They have a very specific use case, which is like sitting on the couch watching TV, and you're just tooling around on your tablet on the Internet or something.

530
00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:28,440
Right.

531
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,560
If you've got a $600 way of playing Candy Crush, right?

532
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,860
I mean, it was pretty good for balloons.

533
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,060
Balloons is pretty awesome.

534
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:36,500
Yeah.

535
00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:41,640
But every time I've used a tablet and I've been like, all right, let's get something done, I've been like, man, I just need a laptop.

536
00:21:42,060 --> 00:21:42,440
Right.

537
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,040
Why am I trying to do this?

538
00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:45,760
Why am I trying to do this on a tablet?

539
00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:46,960
I'm so –

540
00:21:46,980 --> 00:21:47,240
No, Dom.

541
00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:47,800
All right.

542
00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:48,840
Let's go ahead and talk to Carl.

543
00:21:48,940 --> 00:21:49,260
Hey, Carl.

544
00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:49,700
How are you?

545
00:21:50,660 --> 00:21:51,460
I'm doing fine.

546
00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:55,580
And, you know, one of the things that bothers me is I keep talking about unlimited data.

547
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,660
That doesn't apply to a Wi-Fi hotspot, which is where I really need the unlimited data.

548
00:22:00,860 --> 00:22:01,340
That is correct.

549
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,940
Well, you can root your phone and make it a Wi-Fi hotspot.

550
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:04,800
Yeah.

551
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,680
Don't go down that road.

552
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,060
No, I –

553
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,220
Don't listen to Rob right now.

554
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,140
He's saying stuff that – he's being irresponsible on the air.

555
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:13,740
That's what he's doing.

556
00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:16,180
Okay.

557
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,440
Yeah.

558
00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:16,960
But, I mean, that's –

559
00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:23,540
That's one of the things because I use it for my business or what have you, and I keep saying – I think it's misleading.

560
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,380
You know, you have to ask the question.

561
00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:29,800
But unlimited data, no, it's not unlimited for the Wi-Fi hotspot.

562
00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:30,220
Right.

563
00:22:30,220 --> 00:22:35,020
So the way that I do that is I do the hotspot on my phone rather than a separate Wi-Fi device.

564
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,940
And I have an unlimited data plan on my phone.

565
00:22:38,340 --> 00:22:40,660
So that is unlimited for me.

566
00:22:40,940 --> 00:22:41,280
No.

567
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:41,760
Nope.

568
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,940
It's not because I – that's one of the things that I've been looking for.

569
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,960
I have a Wi-Fi hotspot on my phone.

570
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,040
And it's an additional charge per month.

571
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,800
And it's generally limited to 10 megabytes.

572
00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:01,200
And if you go over that, then it gets – see, the throttles back are stopped.

573
00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:03,580
Not in my case, but I have an old one.

574
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,740
I have a grandfathered one.

575
00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:07,200
Oh, if you've got an old plan or whatever it is, yeah.

576
00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:07,800
Yeah.

577
00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:11,780
So I pay an extra $29 for the ability to do the –

578
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:12,760
Right.

579
00:23:12,860 --> 00:23:14,220
The hotspot on my phone.

580
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,940
And my average usage right now is $4.

581
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,040
$4.

582
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:17,680
$4.

583
00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:18,140
$4.

584
00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:18,400
$4.

585
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:18,700
$4.

586
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:18,760


587
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,040
$4.

588
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,040


589
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,600
I can't get that.

590
00:23:21,740 --> 00:23:22,180
No fees.

591
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,360
So that's – you still can under certain circumstances.

592
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:28,700
And it depends on how the plan is set up.

593
00:23:29,180 --> 00:23:31,600
But I wouldn't risk it, right?

594
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:35,280
It's one of these things like I don't even talk to the people about my phone at Verizon

595
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,940
because I don't want them to mess up my plan.

596
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:37,640
Right.

597
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:37,900
Yeah.

598
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,500
That is the problem.

599
00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:46,860
So, yeah, unfortunately for people who try to do mobile work like myself and you, it sounds like,

600
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,720
it's pretty hard to find a reasonable way to get on the Internet without war driving.

601
00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:00,140
And we'll probably see more of that if the cellular companies start clamping down.

602
00:24:00,260 --> 00:24:01,760
We'll probably see more war driving.

603
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,460
And there's a bunch of utilities out there.

604
00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:09,280
Just so you know, you can break into a Wi-Fi network in about 10 seconds no matter what password you put on there

605
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,400
if you have the right applications.

606
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,780
So there's – you're going to see people that are going to be driving around breaking into wireless networks.

607
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:16,940
You're going to see people that are going to be driving around breaking into wireless networks.

608
00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:17,720
Just so they can get on the Internet.

609
00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:26,100
Well, yeah, but that doesn't do me much good because I'm generally out in the field away from Wi-Fi spots.

610
00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:29,160
That's what I'm looking for is for downloading maps.

611
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:30,100
Right.

612
00:24:30,180 --> 00:24:31,140
You're in rough shape, man.

613
00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:32,000
I don't have to tell you.

614
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,220
I am.

615
00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:32,940
I really am.

616
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,620
You're going to have to have like four different cell phone numbers that you can get 10 gigabytes each off of.

617
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,000
Well, that may be something to look at considering how cheap some of these things are getting.

618
00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:43,420
Yeah.

619
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:44,780
Well, good luck, man.

620
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:45,540
All right.

621
00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:46,000
Well, thanks.

622
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:46,380
Thanks.

623
00:24:46,380 --> 00:24:46,920
Sorry about that.

624
00:24:46,940 --> 00:24:47,040
Sorry about that.

625
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,940
It does suck that the cellular companies are just sort of doing whatever they want.

626
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,360
You know, and the FCC is to blame.

627
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:55,740
That's how I look at it.

628
00:24:56,980 --> 00:24:57,380
Jerks.

629
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:57,900
Give me the blues.

630
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,860
I'll be right back.

631
00:25:06,820 --> 00:25:07,220
I'll be right back.

632
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:14,360
I'll be right back.

633
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:23,260
I'll be right back.

634
00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:49,020
I'll be right back.

635
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:49,020


636
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:49,020


637
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:49,020


638
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:49,020


639
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:49,020


640
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:49,020


641
00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:51,620
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642
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643
00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:57,960
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644
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,560
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645
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,840
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646
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,280
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647
00:26:08,380 --> 00:26:10,900
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648
00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:12,660
We've got a question in the chat.

649
00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:13,900
There is a chat question.

650
00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:15,820
It says, I need a new router.

651
00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:16,740
I know I've...

652
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:20,020
Mike has addressed this issue before, but I cannot remember the answer.

653
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,660
My router is now several years old, and I have definitely noticed a loss of wireless range.

654
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,280
What's the best router for a decent price with decent range?

655
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,100
Well, there's a couple of factors involved.

656
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Age does play a factor in routers because they just sort of burn out over time.

657
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,800
But generally, it's not a, you know, it doesn't get weaker.

658
00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:42,720
It just quits altogether.

659
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,720
So your loss of range is probably interference from...

660
00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:47,380
Other people.

661
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,920
You're probably picking up other networks around you that are stepping on your signal.

662
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,720
And that's especially something that looks like it adapts over time or happens over time because people move in and move out.

663
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Right.

664
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:58,880
And a lot of people don't...

665
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,320
It depends on the router, really, which one you have.

666
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,280
If you have a several-year-old one, it probably doesn't do auto-channel switching.

667
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:10,720
So you might want to just try a different channel rather than buying a new router.

668
00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:12,800
So you could...

669
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,740
By default, they come on channel 6, which is right in the middle of the range.

670
00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:17,000
There's 12 channels.

671
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:19,300
There's technically 14, but the last two don't count.

672
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,740
So it's right in the middle of the range there.

673
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,640
And so you might want to try a different one.

674
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,040
You can get an app for your cell phone, especially if you have an Android phone that's called Wi-Fi Analyzer.

675
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,540
It'll tell you what channels are most heavily used around you.

676
00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:38,220
And you can then pick a channel that may be less congested.

677
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,000
And that could probably help out.

678
00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:44,380
Also, if you're going to go buy a new router, there's really no reason not to buy a dual-band router at this point.

679
00:27:44,780 --> 00:27:45,140
Right.

680
00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:51,260
So if you want a decent router that is priced somewhat affordably,

681
00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:55,740
the AC routers by Asus are wonderful routers.

682
00:27:55,860 --> 00:27:57,080
They have decent range.

683
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,880
They're tri-band in many cases, but at least dual-band.

684
00:28:01,620 --> 00:28:03,860
And they are nice and quick.

685
00:28:04,020 --> 00:28:07,320
And so you're looking at about $120 or so.

686
00:28:07,540 --> 00:28:10,100
You know, I just bought a cheapo dual-band router because I was like,

687
00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:10,960
I'm going to buy one anyway.

688
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:13,900
Let's see if this TP-Link router can actually do anything.

689
00:28:14,580 --> 00:28:15,720
Surprisingly, so far...

690
00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:16,160
Sure, no problems.

691
00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:18,920
And you're in a highly congested area.

692
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:24,460
Yeah, it robs in an apartment complex, so there's lots of networks around it.

693
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:26,260
My Wi-Fi is now the most powerful Wi-Fi.

694
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,160
Right.

695
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,260
And if you have an older router, if you're feeling like you want to get some extra life out of it,

696
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,980
and you want to be able to crank up the power on it or change any setting that you like,

697
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:42,740
you can look at something like the Tomato ROMs or the DDWRT.

698
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,480
Just be careful with that.

699
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,080
Yeah.

700
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,620
If you think you might be buying a new router anyway, you can experiment.

701
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,920
Because it's entirely possible you'll brick it if you do it wrong.

702
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,240
Yeah, you need to make sure you're looking at the revision numbers for that firmware because it does matter.

703
00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:58,860
Revisions do count.

704
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,720
Otherwise, you'll have a very expensive paperweight.

705
00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:01,920
Yeah, so...

706
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,640
Yeah, if you're looking like you can afford a $100 router,

707
00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:10,200
it'll last you for a good five or six years.

708
00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:12,840
And that's not a terrible investment.

709
00:29:13,140 --> 00:29:15,040
So, there you are.

710
00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:16,560
Ow.

711
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,360
I just hit myself in the face.

712
00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,480
I thought it was me who was injuring myself with the headphones today.

713
00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:22,320
Yeah, it's just...

714
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,900
No, that didn't happen, remember?

715
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:24,580
Yeah, that's right.

716
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:25,820
Okay.

717
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:29,100
Let's talk about AMD for a moment.

718
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:29,820
Okay.

719
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,620
I'm actually excited to talk about this for once.

720
00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:33,360
I told you last week.

721
00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:35,560
I said, Rob will want to talk about this, so...

722
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,180
Yeah, well, especially...

723
00:29:37,180 --> 00:29:39,220
I'm glad that it was this week because last week was release.

724
00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:40,900
This week, we've had a week.

725
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,060
So, people have played around with Ryzen and benchmarked it on their own.

726
00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:48,700
So, we've seen stuff outside of AMD's carefully controlled environment.

727
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:55,480
And kind of what that has revealed is that not quite meeting up to the highest-end Intel stuff right now,

728
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,340
but when you factor in the price and the performance you're getting for the price, it blows Intel away.

729
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,520
Right.

730
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,800
So, the performance differences are negligible.

731
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:08,920
Yeah, especially when you consider that the highest-end Ryzen processor is $500.

732
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,980
As opposed to $1,200?

733
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,940
Yeah, as opposed to the cost of the machine if you buy the Ryzen processor.

734
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:15,660
Right.

735
00:30:15,740 --> 00:30:19,440
Now, a lot of people have said that the gaming performance isn't great.

736
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,240
That it's usually just best to use the Ryzen as a workhorse machine.

737
00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:30,560
But AMD's CEO has promised that patches and tweaks will fix that and that gaming performance will only go up.

738
00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:30,920
Right.

739
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,860
And I imagine that there's a certain amount of...

740
00:30:32,860 --> 00:30:36,620
That the games are written in such a way...

741
00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:41,380
Or the drivers for the processor are written in such a way that they favor Intel right now.

742
00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:41,900
Yeah.

743
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,720
And the other thing is that CPU performance isn't...

744
00:30:45,220 --> 00:30:45,700
Isn't...

745
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:45,720
Isn't...

746
00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:47,960
It's as important as a lot of people think when it comes to gaming.

747
00:30:48,220 --> 00:30:48,540
Right.

748
00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:50,520
Especially if you have a nice GPU.

749
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,940
And you've got RAM and all of that other good stuff that is important.

750
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,540
Now, if you're just...

751
00:30:55,540 --> 00:31:00,940
If this is like a workhorse machine that you also use as gaming, then, of course, CPU is going to make a difference.

752
00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:03,340
But if you're a gamer, then...

753
00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:05,540
Yeah, you should hopefully have a nice video card to go with it.

754
00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:05,640
Right.

755
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,120
It's important to have a nice processor, but your graphics card is going to make a bigger difference, obviously.

756
00:31:09,340 --> 00:31:09,660
Right.

757
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:10,780
And, of course, AMD always...

758
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:14,800
They tie in the ATI cards into their processing platforms.

759
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,380
So they can talk to each other directly.

760
00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:17,980
Yeah.

761
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:20,020
And historically, that's what they've done.

762
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,500
And I'm not sure that they're doing that with the Ryzen cards, but I imagine that's probably built in.

763
00:31:24,580 --> 00:31:28,760
Well, they've talked about how there's going to be a GPU refresh for AMD as well soon.

764
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,640
So that's good.

765
00:31:30,260 --> 00:31:34,520
I mean, overall, I'm just happy to see, like, some competition.

766
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:35,880
Yeah.

767
00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:36,660
Yeah.

768
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,940
And I think that first generation, we can't put all of our hopes in a single basket when it comes to first generation processors.

769
00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:51,280
But I'm sure as AMD manages to, you know, kind of get the hang of this as far as, oh, yeah, we're building real processors now.

770
00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:58,460
This makes me happy because traditionally I've been a fan of AMD just because the price difference is so astronomical.

771
00:31:59,620 --> 00:32:00,020
Yeah.

772
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,940
And unfortunately, though, previously your performance difference was so astronomical as well.

773
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:04,300
Right.

774
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:10,240
But, I mean, that's for people who are comparing the highest end AMD to the highest end Intel, which isn't a fair comparison at all.

775
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,820
Well, I was looking at the, you know, the stuff that I normally see.

776
00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:16,180
It's where, you know, clients will go out and they'll be like, oh, it's a quad core.

777
00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:16,820
Right.

778
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,380
And then it just performs like an atom.

779
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,100
Well, in a lot of cases, that's because it basically is.

780
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,940
Like, AMD was doing this thing before where you'd only have, like, say, four compute modules on the chip.

781
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:28,460
Right.

782
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,800
And then they were using some software trickery to make it behave like an eight core.

783
00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:38,640
So the new Ryzen stuff is actually eight core as well as actually four core.

784
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,520
Thanks for not lying to me anymore, AMD.

785
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,820
To be fair, Intel kind of did that, too, for a while.

786
00:32:42,940 --> 00:32:43,420
Right.

787
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:50,580
Well, like the processor that I have on my computer, it's a fairly high end Intel chip.

788
00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:55,880
And it reports 12 cores.

789
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:56,360
Right.

790
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:58,180
And it's an eight.

791
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:58,880
Right.

792
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,480
And so there's some software trickery happening there.

793
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,600
No, and I mean, it's not like they're just straight up lying.

794
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Like, you do get better performance out of that processor than you would out of just an eight core.

795
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,700
This is true.

796
00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:12,000
I mean, and, yeah, don't get me wrong, that computer moves right along.

797
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,540
But it somewhat feels dishonest.

798
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:22,380
I think the reason why I've always liked AMD more than Intel is because I've never been somebody.

799
00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:25,020
I can't just, I'm not going to spend $5,000 on a computer.

800
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,860
And I'm, like, this is my life, you know.

801
00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:28,320
Right.

802
00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:33,600
So I like AMD because it's like you can build a machine that does what you want it to do,

803
00:33:33,660 --> 00:33:36,020
and it's not going to cost you the cost of a new car.

804
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:36,800
Right.

805
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,900
Yeah, because you can easily, if you wanted to build a top end, like,

806
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:47,840
really high end machine, an Intel based machine, you can drop four grand easy.

807
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,480
Yeah.

808
00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:53,380
And especially if you're doing, like, you decide that you want to be a professional gamer,

809
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,460
and you've got three, you know, 1080s in there or something like that.

810
00:33:56,660 --> 00:34:01,180
Yeah, and I mean, that's the other thing I was going to say is that I'm excited about a graphics refresh for AMD as well,

811
00:34:01,220 --> 00:34:04,540
because I'm certainly not a fan of their graphics cards for the most part.

812
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,240
You know, like, the RX 480 is like a cool card if you need budget VR kind of stuff.

813
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:10,660
Right.

814
00:34:10,660 --> 00:34:15,920
But if you're a serious gamer or care about graphics at all, you're going the GTX route for sure.

815
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,300
Right.

816
00:34:16,580 --> 00:34:17,680
NVIDIA all the way.

817
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,180
Let's go ahead and take a call here.

818
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:19,700
Let's talk to Ron.

819
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,460
Hey, Ron, how are you?

820
00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:22,440
I'm doing good.

821
00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:23,260
Hope you're doing good.

822
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,140
We are.

823
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:24,980
I am anyway.

824
00:34:25,060 --> 00:34:25,660
How are you doing, Ron?

825
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,040
Not bad.

826
00:34:26,140 --> 00:34:26,360
All right.

827
00:34:26,820 --> 00:34:27,180
Yep.

828
00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:28,640
Status check complete.

829
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,000
Cool.

830
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:30,660
Good.

831
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,280
It passes.

832
00:34:33,460 --> 00:34:40,640
Now, is it a privacy concern to log into a website that's not Facebook with my phone?

833
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,980
My Facebook email and password.

834
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,540
All right.

835
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,400
So security concern, not so much.

836
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,740
Privacy concern, yes.

837
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,180
So those are two different things.

838
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,100
But privacy, yeah.

839
00:34:56,180 --> 00:35:00,080
I mean, if you want to be private, you're not logging into anything with a Facebook login.

840
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,020
When you log in with Facebook, Facebook sees exactly what you're doing.

841
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:03,700
They can see everything.

842
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,740
Just know that when you do it.

843
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,440
Okay.

844
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:07,660
All right.

845
00:35:07,820 --> 00:35:09,060
Now, you can...

846
00:35:09,060 --> 00:35:09,780
You can...

847
00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:16,060
Even if you're doing something like a VPN, though, that allows that traffic to be reported

848
00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:16,680
to Facebook.

849
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:17,580
So they at least...

850
00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:19,200
They know something about your account.

851
00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:20,580
They know that you have an account there.

852
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:25,420
And so if you're concerned about Facebook being able to collect a bunch of information

853
00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:27,360
about you, you don't log in with Facebook.

854
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,260
Now, when it comes to security, if you're worried about that website having your Facebook

855
00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:35,160
username and password, in any legit case, that's not how it works.

856
00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:36,460
So you don't have to worry about that.

857
00:35:37,220 --> 00:35:37,620
So...

858
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:39,680
But when you type in your password...

859
00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:41,340
Or don't they have it there?

860
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,980
Well, when you log...

861
00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:47,620
When you sign up with Facebook, normally it'll open a pop-up or a Facebook window or it'll

862
00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:48,260
go to Facebook.

863
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,220
And then at that point, you're just authenticating with Facebook and the website is looking to

864
00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:54,200
Facebook to get a thumbs up, essentially.

865
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:54,880
Right.

866
00:35:54,940 --> 00:36:00,760
So when you sign in with Facebook, that little pop-up that comes up and you say, hey, I'm

867
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,460
allowing this to happen, Facebook sets a very special cookie that says, I am allowed to

868
00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:06,840
do this.

869
00:36:06,940 --> 00:36:08,300
And it's time limited.

870
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:08,860
It's a...

871
00:36:08,860 --> 00:36:09,480
It's a...

872
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:09,480


873
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:09,520
It's a...

874
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:09,600
It's a...

875
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:09,620
It's a...

876
00:36:09,620 --> 00:36:09,680
It's a...

877
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:09,760
It's a...

878
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:09,760


879
00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:10,220
It's a...

880
00:36:10,220 --> 00:36:12,960
It's fairly secure, but it is...

881
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,520
All it is is an authentication process.

882
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:19,900
So the website that you're logging into then goes to Facebook and says, hey, this user

883
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:21,480
says we can log in as them.

884
00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:22,320
Is that cool?

885
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,880
Facebook then responds yes and then deletes the cookie.

886
00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:26,300
Oh.

887
00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:27,420
Okay.

888
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:32,520
So as far as security is concerned, it's not really a security issue, but privacy, yes.

889
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:34,380
Okay.

890
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:38,880
Because, you know, Facebook collects everything and then will be our future overlord.

891
00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:39,760
Honestly, I'm really curious.

892
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,840
not a fan of signing into websites with other websites. I kind of think you should have

893
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,400
a separate account for each one for security reasons.

894
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,440
It's because we are like paranoid security dudes.

895
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:49,620
Yeah.

896
00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:50,200
But yes.

897
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:54,400
Mostly that extends for me. That's because of Wi-Fi, like sidejacking and that kind of

898
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:54,560
thing.

899
00:36:54,740 --> 00:37:00,100
Right. We should do a sidejacking demo. We're actually planning a get-together where we

900
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:03,860
can get listeners to come down probably April.

901
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:04,800
Something like that.

902
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,000
And we should do a sidejacking demo.

903
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,660
Yeah, that would be a lot of fun.

904
00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:08,400
Just to show how it works.

905
00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:09,540
Sounds good.

906
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,060
Where you guys can come down here and then we can show you the inner workings of your

907
00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:15,320
Facebook page without permission.

908
00:37:16,220 --> 00:37:17,520
That sounds good.

909
00:37:18,140 --> 00:37:25,420
So now I'm curious. So on that third or the other website, I guess at that point, once

910
00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:30,240
they get permission from Facebook, they are able to, or their users on that website are

911
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,160
able to see your profile as if they are...

912
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,820
It depends on the permissions. It depends on the permissions that the website's requesting.

913
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,320
Right. In most cases...

914
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:39,780
Yeah.

915
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:39,780


916
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:39,780


917
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:39,780


918
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:39,780


919
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:45,720
So the only thing that's passing across is your basic public profile information. So

920
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:51,680
your name and anything else that you've marked as public consumption, that website has access

921
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,020
to.

922
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:52,780
Okay.

923
00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:57,700
Anything that's marked as private or sensitive information is not passed across to those

924
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:02,280
things. And that's why a lot of pages, especially if they...even if they allow the sign-in as

925
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,840
Facebook, will then ask you for additional information. It's because they can't pull

926
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,000
that information from Facebook.

927
00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:08,200
Okay.

928
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,880
So in other words, things you have marked as just for friends, they can't see unless

929
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,560
you give permission specifically.

930
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,300
Okay. Right.

931
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:15,700
Sounds good.

932
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,560
Now...

933
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,340
All right. Thanks for the...

934
00:38:17,340 --> 00:38:21,760
And one of the reasons I don't do it is because there was a bad habit of several

935
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,480
websites that would be like, hey, we're going to post as you whenever the heck we want.

936
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:34,500
And we're going to be like, you signed in to twinkies.com with Facebook. And so it'll

937
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,380
randomly post things like, I love Twinkies.

938
00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:39,640
And it's just like, come on now.

939
00:38:39,820 --> 00:38:42,900
I don't think that's happening so much these days because they kind of got called

940
00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:43,760
out for that kind of stuff.

941
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,840
Yeah. It doesn't happen. But that's what turned me off to the whole signing in as...with

942
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:55,780
another website. Not to mention that how we like every week talk about, hey, this site

943
00:38:55,780 --> 00:39:00,160
got hacked. You should probably change all your passwords. And that's one of the reasons

944
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,280
for it. It's just like, I don't sign in with anything as Facebook. It's just like, nope.

945
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:07,360
In fact, I don't even open Facebook. I don't even...

946
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,360


947
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,580
I don't sign in with Facebook, but like once a month maybe.

948
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,980
I do it at work for work and that's it. I don't have a Facebook.

949
00:39:12,220 --> 00:39:17,060
Yeah. So yeah. If you want my opinion, don't sign in as Facebook and just create an account

950
00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:20,540
and keep...have a separate password and make sure that it's different than any of your

951
00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:26,080
other passwords because security and then be safe and then don't worry about it.

952
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,100
So let's say if I want to...if I do that, but then I want people on the other website

953
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:36,080
to see my profile, I would just send them, I guess, the URL of my basic...

954
00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:37,340
Yeah.

955
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:37,560
...Facebook page.

956
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,560
Yeah. You could...I mean, if you're talking like another social network or something,

957
00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:42,560
you could just link to your Facebook page.

958
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:43,880
Yeah. Okay.

959
00:39:44,020 --> 00:39:47,560
And then that way, at least the two social sites don't have direct communication with

960
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,560
one another at that point.

961
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,840
Right. That's a good way of doing it. Okay. Thanks.

962
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,460
All right. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it.

963
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,380
Bye.

964
00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:58,300
We're going to take a quick break. When we get back, more of The Computer Guru

965
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:01,260
Show at 7902040. Give us a call.

966
00:40:07,340 --> 00:40:10,100
All right.

967
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,520
Bye.

968
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,600
Bye.

969
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:21,700
Bye.

970
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,780
Bye.

971
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,720
Bye.

972
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:29,960
Bye.

973
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,180
Bye.

974
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:30,760
Bye.

975
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,300
Bye.

976
00:40:49,860 --> 00:40:50,600
Bye.

977
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,180
Bye.

978
00:40:53,380 --> 00:40:53,380


979
00:40:53,980 --> 00:40:54,720
Bye.

980
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,160
Bye.

981
00:40:55,340 --> 00:40:56,080
Bye.

982
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:56,080


983
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:56,080


984
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:56,080


985
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:56,380
Bye.

986
00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:56,380


987
00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:56,380


988
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989
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990
00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:56,380


991
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992
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993
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994
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995
00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:57,040
Bye.

996
00:40:57,220 --> 00:40:57,600
Bye.

997
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:57,900
Bye.

998
00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:58,420
Bye.

999
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:58,460
Bye.

1000
00:40:58,700 --> 00:40:59,280
Bye.

1001
00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:00,360
Bye.

1002
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:01,100
Bye.

1003
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:01,860
Bye.

1004
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:04,120
There's the, why haven't you changed your password recently?

1005
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,260
And it's just the thing I complain about all the time.

1006
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,100
Change your passwords, people.

1007
00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:15,360
But here's some reasons that you may want to, especially if you are traveling internationally.

1008
00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:19,720
Yeah, we were talking about this before the show, and I think that we were both a little bit like,

1009
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,480
that's so silly, but then at the end of the day, as long as you're changing your passwords regularly,

1010
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:24,800
there's nothing to worry about.

1011
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:29,460
All right, so it turns out that the TSA is not allowed to confiscate your laptop.

1012
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:31,060
They're not allowed to ask you for passwords.

1013
00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:37,340
They're not allowed to invade your, you know, there's some Fourth Amendment that applies to the TSA.

1014
00:41:38,260 --> 00:41:39,980
But not so much with Border Patrol.

1015
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:41,920
Yeah, they say it's a gray area.

1016
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,000
Well, yeah, it turns out that 10 miles on either side of the border is this gray area.

1017
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:47,680
Literally, yeah.

1018
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,340
Where you don't necessarily have constitutional rights, which is pretty interesting.

1019
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:59,620
I'm sure that some lawyer will be happy to explain to me how crazy it really is,

1020
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:00,960
or maybe it's more cut and dry.

1021
00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:01,900
than I suspect it is.

1022
00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:05,860
But according to the article, Border Patrol can do whatever the heck they want

1023
00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:08,700
when it comes to getting into your digital persona.

1024
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:11,960
Including just forcibly detaining you until you give them your password?

1025
00:42:12,220 --> 00:42:18,360
Yeah, and then they can search your devices and see which terrorist groups

1026
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,880
that you have been chatting with recently.

1027
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,500
And so, yeah, there's a little bit of a weirdness in there.

1028
00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:30,640
Now, it just turns out, you know, that one, I go through Border Patrol,

1029
00:42:31,060 --> 00:42:32,160
Border Patrol checkpoints all the time.

1030
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:37,760
And because I have to go out to places where there's a checkpoint in between.

1031
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,440
And they never give me grief.

1032
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,180
I mean, look at me.

1033
00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:44,560
They never give me grief.

1034
00:42:45,820 --> 00:42:50,180
Although, I've been kind of messing with them a little bit, you know, as far as, you know,

1035
00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:51,860
I come back and they'll be like, are you an American citizen?

1036
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,380
And I'm like, see, you know, or something.

1037
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,460
And they just wave me through, like, get out of here.

1038
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,980
If you started wearing glasses and driving an RV down there, I think they might have something to say.

1039
00:43:00,020 --> 00:43:00,940
Oh, maybe I should go to Walter.

1040
00:43:01,060 --> 00:43:01,400
Yeah.

1041
00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:07,520
But it turns out that they can ask you for your passwords and hold you.

1042
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,460
And you know what you do?

1043
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:11,480
Change your password right afterwards.

1044
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:12,680
That's what you do.

1045
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:14,740
This is the Computer Guru Show.

1046
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:17,700
Stick around for the second hour coming up next, right after these messages.

1047
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,520
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1048
00:43:20,660 --> 00:43:21,280
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1049
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:25,060
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1050
00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:27,220
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1051
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,840
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1052
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:31,040
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1053
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1054
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,720
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1055
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,060
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1056
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,020
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1057
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:41,640
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1058
00:43:41,860 --> 00:43:44,680
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1059
00:43:44,820 --> 00:43:46,320
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1060
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,260
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1061
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,680
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1062
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,340
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1063
00:43:54,540 --> 00:43:57,900
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1064
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,040
Thank you.

1065
00:44:01,060 --> 00:44:03,300
Why don't people understand my intention?

1066
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,140
Computer running slow?

1067
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:05,620
Avoiding.

1068
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,620
Caught a virus?

1069
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,120
What?

1070
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:07,620
No!

1071
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:08,380
When?

1072
00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:12,080
Does your computer seem to have a life of its own?

1073
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:13,020
Malfunction.

1074
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,560
Need input.

1075
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,520
The computer guru is here.

1076
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,600
My God, you're here!

1077
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,840
Call in now.

1078
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,040
Now, it's Mike Swanson, your computer guru.

1079
00:44:24,660 --> 00:44:26,560
Welcome back to the Computer Guru Show.

1080
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,380
My name is Mike, here to deal with your technology needs

1081
00:44:28,380 --> 00:44:30,240
and treat you like a person in the process.

1082
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,100
Give us a call if you'd like to be part of the show.

1083
00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:34,220
520-790-2040.

1084
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,500
Or you can join us in the chat at gurushow.com slash chat.

1085
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,780
And you totally should, because there's people in there.

1086
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:40,720
Yeah, we're in there.

1087
00:44:40,860 --> 00:44:41,420
We're chatting away.

1088
00:44:41,580 --> 00:44:42,420
We're chatting it up.

1089
00:44:43,540 --> 00:44:44,160
Chatting it up.

1090
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,740
Let's talk about cord cutting for a second.

1091
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,320
We haven't talked about that in a while.

1092
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,960
Yeah, and it'll be interesting to talk about, because I just did the opposite of that.

1093
00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:51,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1094
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Poor you.

1095
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,540
I got cable for the first time in like nearly a decade.

1096
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,260
Because you just want to spend money unnecessarily.

1097
00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:59,360
I don't want to spend money unnecessarily.

1098
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Oh.

1099
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,840
Oh, I see what's going on here.

1100
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,140
Well, we have to call your girlfriend out on it.

1101
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:12,620
Well, she wanted certain channels that I didn't want to go through the hassle of setting up and making it work.

1102
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,120
And also, she's just like, I just want to turn on the TV and have it be on.

1103
00:45:15,220 --> 00:45:19,440
I don't want to have to turn on 12 devices and sync everything up and cast things to things.

1104
00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:20,340
Right.

1105
00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:22,340
It's nowhere near that bad, but all right.

1106
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:25,800
So the Food Network.

1107
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,080
Well, she's a baker.

1108
00:45:28,220 --> 00:45:30,020
So she wanted the Food Network.

1109
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:35,880
And also, I will say that it's kind of nice to just be able to turn something on and have something on there.

1110
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,740
But I don't know if that's worth $40 a month or whatever.

1111
00:45:37,940 --> 00:45:38,940
It's too boring for me.

1112
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:46,760
I like to use casting in the sense of I have to use like a magical spell to get what I want on the television.

1113
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:51,420
I will also say that I forgot how terrible commercials are.

1114
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,300
Yeah, I haven't seen a commercial in like three years.

1115
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:55,340
Yeah, I was in the same boat.

1116
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,940
Like I only saw commercials when I went to people's houses or something.

1117
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,400
You know?

1118
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,100
Yeah, I don't go to people's houses.

1119
00:46:02,380 --> 00:46:03,560
There's so many commercials.

1120
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:06,640
It's like one minute of show and then there's an hour of commercials.

1121
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,340
It's dawning on me that I am turning into Howard Hughes, right?

1122
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,940
Minus the money.

1123
00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:14,000
And the pee jars, hopefully.

1124
00:46:14,460 --> 00:46:15,420
Yeah, none of that either.

1125
00:46:16,180 --> 00:46:19,040
But it's just like I don't go to people's houses.

1126
00:46:19,220 --> 00:46:21,480
I am mildly germaphobic.

1127
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,440
Are you going to be scrubbing your hands until they bleed?

1128
00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:26,580
No, I don't think I'll go that route.

1129
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:26,820
Not that bad.

1130
00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:28,320
Well, I don't think you had hand sanitizer either.

1131
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:28,380


1132
00:46:28,860 --> 00:46:30,400
Yeah, that's not good for you anyway.

1133
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:37,440
But anyway, there's a new option on the playing field here as far as the ability to do some cord cutting.

1134
00:46:37,540 --> 00:46:39,540
And that would be, believe it or not, YouTube.

1135
00:46:39,980 --> 00:46:42,340
YouTube is offering a new service called YouTube TV.

1136
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:48,000
They will have 40 networks to launch with and they're adding local providers.

1137
00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:53,920
I think the name is kind of silly though because like the whole point was that it was like, you know, a tube is like slang for TV.

1138
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,600
Yeah, a little redundant.

1139
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:55,920
Yeah.

1140
00:46:56,140 --> 00:46:58,380
But for $35,000.

1141
00:46:58,380 --> 00:46:58,380


1142
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,900
For $35,000 a month, you can basically have on demand.

1143
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,460
So, I mean, Sling exists, which is basically the same service except it's not as good in any way.

1144
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,040
Right.

1145
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,660
They do provide local channels but I think you have to pay extra for them.

1146
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:17,560
You do have to pay extra for them and they have fewer amounts of devices that you can stream to simultaneously.

1147
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:19,160
And it's just bad.

1148
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:21,980
I've tested it out before getting cable.

1149
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,620
I was like maybe this will be the way to go.

1150
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,020
Nope.

1151
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:24,400
Nope.

1152
00:47:24,460 --> 00:47:28,340
Yeah, but YouTube, they do a pretty decent job of getting your…

1153
00:47:28,340 --> 00:47:28,380
Yeah.

1154
00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:34,940
…their content to you and they have, you know, they have the infrastructure to be able to pull this off whereas I think Sling just doesn't.

1155
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,300
We could do an entire episode about how YouTube delivers a video to you.

1156
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:39,180
It's actually fascinating.

1157
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:45,080
There's a lot going on, a lot more than you think there is as far as hitting play on a video.

1158
00:47:45,220 --> 00:47:49,120
Like the science behind how the counter goes up for views is crazy.

1159
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,660
Yeah, which is why it doesn't work.

1160
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,380
It merely gives the appearance of not working while it computes how to work in the background apparently.

1161
00:47:57,140 --> 00:47:57,520
Right.

1162
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,080
Well, the Gangnam Style like broke the counter.

1163
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,760
Yeah, it turns out that you couldn't have over a billion views.

1164
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:06,100
I don't think they ever thought that was going to be a problem.

1165
00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:06,560
Yeah.

1166
00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:08,560
That is a huge amount of views.

1167
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,500
But anyway, YouTube is going to give you an option for cord cutting that requires less science involved.

1168
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:26,060
Considering that most streaming devices, in fact, I think all of them, the Roku, the Apple TV, the Plexbox, you know, Plex or not Plexbox, Amazon Fire TV,

1169
00:48:26,060 --> 00:48:31,620
all of the different streaming devices have a YouTube app built in.

1170
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:39,880
And with the launch of YouTube TV, I'm sure they'll get a more refined, very YouTube style app for those things.

1171
00:48:40,340 --> 00:48:50,620
So it's something that I think is going to be useful just because I completely disagree with the entire business model of cable.

1172
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,700
And so I have this aversion to anyone using cable.

1173
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,040
Yeah.

1174
00:48:56,060 --> 00:48:59,060
But, you know, it's not like I'm anti-cable.

1175
00:48:59,180 --> 00:49:00,240
I'm just a cable.

1176
00:49:00,460 --> 00:49:02,220
Well, I have cable and I'm still anti-cable.

1177
00:49:02,420 --> 00:49:10,680
So I'm planning on seeing if I can, now that I've had it for a while and I'm not like blown away by how amazing it is, I think there might be some renegotiation happening.

1178
00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:14,880
Oh, well, maybe you can figure out how to, you know, cut the cord for Food Network.

1179
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,720
Good luck with that, man.

1180
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:16,160
Yeah.

1181
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Yeah.

1182
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,260
See, I like to argue with people though.

1183
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,300
It's kind of a hobby.

1184
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:22,380
It is kind of a, yeah.

1185
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,680
We're not going to talk about that right now.

1186
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,280
Let's talk to Thomas.

1187
00:49:26,060 --> 00:49:26,280
How are you?

1188
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,480
I'm okay.

1189
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,860
I'm enjoying your show.

1190
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:37,660
I don't always get a chance to listen to it because most of the time, including today, you're talking about stuff I have no idea.

1191
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:39,460
It's all way over my head.

1192
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,280
Then you should call and say, I don't understand that, Mike.

1193
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:42,440
Explain it to me better.

1194
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:56,040
Well, I'm 77 years old and I got my first computer in 1998 and I still about the only thing I can really do is work.

1195
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,440
OK.

1196
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,000


1197
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,000


1198
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,000


1199
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,000


1200
00:50:03,060 --> 00:50:03,580
OK.

1201
00:50:05,780 --> 00:50:06,300
OK.

1202
00:50:06,380 --> 00:50:06,380


1203
00:50:06,820 --> 00:50:07,340
OK.

1204
00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:07,340


1205
00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:07,560
OK.

1206
00:50:08,020 --> 00:50:08,200
OK.

1207
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:08,580
OK.

1208
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:08,980
OK.

1209
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:09,280
OK.

1210
00:50:09,860 --> 00:50:10,380
OK.

1211
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,160
OK.

1212
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:12,660
OK.

1213
00:50:13,420 --> 00:50:13,940
OK.

1214
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:14,440
OK.

1215
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:14,960
OK.

1216
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,520
OK.

1217
00:50:16,700 --> 00:50:16,840
OK.

1218
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,240
OK.

1219
00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:17,640
OK.

1220
00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:18,560
OK.

1221
00:50:19,140 --> 00:50:19,560
OK.

1222
00:50:20,780 --> 00:50:20,920
OK.

1223
00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:24,060
OK.

1224
00:50:24,060 --> 00:50:27,300
from Cox, my internet is $67.99.

1225
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,460
Yeah, I think he was just talking about the TV portion.

1226
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:34,600
Yeah, for the actual internet itself, I pay about, I think it's about $80.

1227
00:50:35,940 --> 00:50:37,180
For the actual internet?

1228
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,660
Just for the internet, and then I pay an additional $40 now for TV as well.

1229
00:50:41,740 --> 00:50:47,300
Well, I got, under mine, under new charges, for TV, it says $146.99.

1230
00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:50,080
Internet, $67.99.

1231
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:52,340
Telephone, $14.09.

1232
00:50:52,340 --> 00:50:52,460
$14.09.

1233
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,080
See, this is one of the reasons that I, I'm going to use a word that I don't use very often.

1234
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,520
I hate the cable company.

1235
00:50:58,820 --> 00:50:59,820
Well, I do too.

1236
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,280
And this is the reason why, is because they'll sign you up and they'll say,

1237
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:09,040
hey, for $9 a month, we'll get you on the internet and you can watch TV,

1238
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:12,640
and then suddenly your bill is $4,000, and you don't know why.

1239
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,340
And they do this all the time.

1240
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:21,220
I mean, Rob, you had the, that old place, you had this, a war with Comcast.

1241
00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:21,580
Yeah, for sure.

1242
00:51:21,580 --> 00:51:25,980
You know, talking about how they were like, they kept raising his price without telling him.

1243
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,120
Yeah, I'd just get my bill and it'd be like $20 higher.

1244
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,160
And then I'd call them up and they'd be like, oh, we'll take that off.

1245
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:31,660
And then they slowed your internet down.

1246
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:33,220
Yeah, and I'm like, what, why did, why?

1247
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,620
You're just trying to see if I noticed?

1248
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,180
It's not cool.

1249
00:51:36,420 --> 00:51:40,180
So, you might have to call up and force a renegotiation of your bill.

1250
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,240
I just renegotiated with them in August.

1251
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,080
Well, do it again.

1252
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,680
The magic words are usually, I can get this cheaper elsewhere.

1253
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:48,000
Right.

1254
00:51:48,020 --> 00:51:50,600
The magic words are usually, I can get this cheaper elsewhere.

1255
00:51:50,860 --> 00:51:51,540
Oh, I see.

1256
00:51:51,580 --> 00:51:51,760
I see.

1257
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,160
Okay.

1258
00:51:53,080 --> 00:52:00,060
And you talk a lot about passwords and it's changing passwords.

1259
00:52:00,260 --> 00:52:06,400
You know, I have a, when I go to the bank, I stutter wondering whether I'm going to have the right pin.

1260
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,160
And I only have two accounts and that's only four, four numbers.

1261
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:11,740
Right.

1262
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:15,020
Let alone, I've started writing them down in a book.

1263
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:15,760
Which is?

1264
00:52:15,820 --> 00:52:19,000
Passwords to go to this guy, to go to that guy, to go to this guy.

1265
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,060
Because when I...

1266
00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:25,900
If I'm not using it every day, my mind says, what the hell is that?

1267
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:26,660
Right.

1268
00:52:26,980 --> 00:52:33,020
So, I have to, you know, I go to this bank and tomorrow I go to the other bank and I

1269
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:37,580
got to go and get my little book that I got it written down in to make sure that I'm putting

1270
00:52:37,580 --> 00:52:38,960
all the right information in.

1271
00:52:39,260 --> 00:52:42,800
And so, like, I don't like changing passwords.

1272
00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:45,640
I understand that, but it's for your own good.

1273
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,040
I mean, you don't want anybody to have access to your stuff.

1274
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:50,460
And believe me.

1275
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:52,020
They will have access to your stuff.

1276
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,340
In fact, there's a website that you can go to that will tell you whether or not somebody

1277
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:58,420
has probably has your password or not.

1278
00:52:58,420 --> 00:53:01,120
And in a lot of cases, if you use common websites, they do.

1279
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:02,080
Right.

1280
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,080
So, I'm not a Facebook guy.

1281
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:05,100
I'm not on there.

1282
00:53:05,140 --> 00:53:05,820
I'm not a Twitter.

1283
00:53:06,020 --> 00:53:06,540
I don't...

1284
00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:07,400
Who's your email provider?

1285
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:09,920
My what?

1286
00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:12,420
What's after the at symbol in your email address?

1287
00:53:14,540 --> 00:53:15,500
I don't know.

1288
00:53:15,940 --> 00:53:17,360
Oh, doc.com.

1289
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,460
No, before that, though.

1290
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:19,520
Cox.

1291
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:20,400
There you go.

1292
00:53:20,460 --> 00:53:21,700
No, no, no, no, no, no.

1293
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:21,820
Yeah.

1294
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,180
Cox.

1295
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:22,980
Cox.com.

1296
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:23,320
Yeah.

1297
00:53:23,620 --> 00:53:25,460
No, I don't have Cox.com.

1298
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,320
I've got...

1299
00:53:26,980 --> 00:53:27,620
You see?

1300
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,080
See?

1301
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:28,920
All right.

1302
00:53:28,940 --> 00:53:34,460
So, chances are that if you're using a provider email, right, if you're, like, either email

1303
00:53:34,460 --> 00:53:41,200
provided by your internet provider or especially if you're using something like Yahoo for mail

1304
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,640
or AOL, that those...

1305
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,680
Oh, I know what it is now.

1306
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,400
Hotmail and Google.

1307
00:53:46,820 --> 00:53:47,420
All right.

1308
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,060
The Google one, you're probably relatively safe there.

1309
00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:50,860
Okay.

1310
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:53,060
There was a Hotmail breach, wasn't there?

1311
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,000
But there's several Hotmail breaches.

1312
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,280
So, if you haven't changed your password since, I don't know, ever, then somebody knows your

1313
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:01,600
password.

1314
00:54:02,620 --> 00:54:05,740
And in some cases, you know, people just don't care, right?

1315
00:54:05,780 --> 00:54:08,580
They're just like, I don't really have anything to hide here.

1316
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,440
But it can cause larger problems than that.

1317
00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:19,220
You can end up being basically the source of a spam email.

1318
00:54:19,220 --> 00:54:22,160
So, if you're using a provider email, if somebody can guess your email password, and that happens

1319
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,200
a lot on Hotmail.

1320
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:30,940
So, the idea of password, keeping yourself safe online is an important topic.

1321
00:54:30,980 --> 00:54:34,500
And especially for those that have a larger digital presence, right, where they're doing

1322
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,060
more stuff online than just checking email.

1323
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,420
But as you said in the beginning of the call, there are many places where you just can't

1324
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:46,920
do anything but to use an online service as an example for paying bills.

1325
00:54:47,060 --> 00:54:49,000
Or like my daughter's homework.

1326
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:49,840
Right?

1327
00:54:49,860 --> 00:54:51,400
They don't send paper homework anymore.

1328
00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:57,960
They have a laptop that is provided, a Chromebook that is provided to them, and they have to

1329
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,400
do all of their assignments online.

1330
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:03,460
And if I want to be able to check on any of her work, I have to be able to sign into those

1331
00:55:03,460 --> 00:55:04,000
accounts also.

1332
00:55:04,980 --> 00:55:08,820
So, the world is moving completely digital.

1333
00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:11,580
And so, password protection is important.

1334
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,900
And you should probably get a password manager if you really want to sort of be safe.

1335
00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:17,600
That way, you only have to remember one password.

1336
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,200
And the...

1337
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,300
The software takes care of the rest and remembers all the rest of your passwords.

1338
00:55:22,580 --> 00:55:26,740
Is that a program that you buy or a place, another place you go to on the internet to

1339
00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:27,380
come up with that?

1340
00:55:27,540 --> 00:55:27,700
Both.

1341
00:55:28,180 --> 00:55:31,720
So, you have to go to the website to get the software and then purchase it.

1342
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,840
The one that I like right now is LastPass.

1343
00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:37,140
And it's...

1344
00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:39,980
They taught themselves that the last password you'll ever have to remember.

1345
00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:41,560
I'll put a link in the show notes.

1346
00:55:41,740 --> 00:55:41,940
Right.

1347
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,500
So, if you manage to make it over to gurushow.com and check out the show notes, there'll be

1348
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:47,020
a link there.

1349
00:55:47,660 --> 00:55:49,180
But there are several password managers.

1350
00:55:49,180 --> 00:55:49,180


1351
00:55:49,180 --> 00:55:50,600
There are a lot of password managers out there to help keep you safe.

1352
00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:51,920
They remember your passwords for you.

1353
00:55:52,020 --> 00:55:56,700
And if you get the paid version, then it remembers all of your passwords across all of your devices.

1354
00:55:56,820 --> 00:56:00,980
So that if you happen to have a smartphone or another computer...

1355
00:56:00,980 --> 00:56:01,620
No smartphone.

1356
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:05,860
So, if you happen to have another device of any type that you get online with, it will

1357
00:56:05,860 --> 00:56:07,600
synchronize those passwords to the other device.

1358
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,800
So, you never have to remember a password ever other than the main password for LastPass.

1359
00:56:13,940 --> 00:56:16,680
And it'll actually even sign in the websites for you.

1360
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,140
So, you don't even have to see the login page anymore.

1361
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:26,040
I have a laptop and it sits right by me when I'm watching TV.

1362
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,220
And I looked at it the other day.

1363
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,060
I turned it on.

1364
00:56:29,740 --> 00:56:36,480
And a message came up that says Microsoft no longer supports...

1365
00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:42,240
Not number seven, but it's the one before seven.

1366
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,880
Well, you probably had it set for Vista?

1367
00:56:46,220 --> 00:56:46,780
Vista.

1368
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,280
Yeah.

1369
00:56:47,380 --> 00:56:47,820
Yeah.

1370
00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:49,280
Vista.

1371
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:55,500
My other computer in my room over here, which I haven't used in a few years, no longer supports

1372
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,380
that one that was before that.

1373
00:56:58,660 --> 00:56:59,040
XP?

1374
00:56:59,040 --> 00:56:59,940
XP, right.

1375
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:00,880
XP, right.

1376
00:57:01,220 --> 00:57:02,360
We've got to get you with the times, man.

1377
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,340
You're way behind.

1378
00:57:06,340 --> 00:57:07,000
Oh, yeah.

1379
00:57:07,220 --> 00:57:07,900
I don't...

1380
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:12,320
You know, it's just here because I don't use it.

1381
00:57:12,380 --> 00:57:12,840
I'm not...

1382
00:57:13,460 --> 00:57:18,720
I use it to maybe play a game or run a language thing or something where I don't have to go

1383
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,380
on the internet.

1384
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:20,960
I just stick in the DVD.

1385
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,220
All right.

1386
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,160
Well, the one that...

1387
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,840
If you're not using it online, you're probably fine.

1388
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,580
But if you're on the internet at all with something that old...

1389
00:57:28,580 --> 00:57:29,100
No, I'm not.

1390
00:57:29,260 --> 00:57:29,640
Definitely not.

1391
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,580
Even the Vista machine?

1392
00:57:31,140 --> 00:57:32,240
Even the Vista machine.

1393
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:32,680
I know.

1394
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:33,560
I was a little bit...

1395
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,540
I was surprised they're not supporting Vista.

1396
00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:36,940
It's 15 years old.

1397
00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:38,220
They're not going to support that.

1398
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,420
Oh, it's 15 years old?

1399
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:40,780
Yeah.

1400
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,520
Seven was out for 10 years.

1401
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,340
Vista was out for three years before that and was in beta for another year and a half

1402
00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:45,760
before that.

1403
00:57:45,820 --> 00:57:47,020
So it's 15 years old.

1404
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:47,860
Oh, okay.

1405
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,060
So you got to get with the times, man.

1406
00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:51,540
Come down and see us.

1407
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:51,720
Yeah.

1408
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,960
Well, I was forced into Windows 10 because they just kept...

1409
00:57:57,580 --> 00:58:01,820
They'd break into whatever I was looking at and tell me, don't miss your opportunity to

1410
00:58:01,820 --> 00:58:03,380
get the free Windows 10.

1411
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,960
Finally one day I just said, I can't take this anymore, so I did.

1412
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:07,520
Yeah.

1413
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,080
They got in trouble for that.

1414
00:58:09,140 --> 00:58:11,920
That's pretty much how all 10 users became 10 users.

1415
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:14,060
We got to take a break though.

1416
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:14,840
Sorry about that.

1417
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:14,960
Okay.

1418
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,120
Thanks a lot.

1419
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,080
Bye-bye.

1420
00:58:17,020 --> 00:58:19,320
Well, come down and see us at the shop, 510 East Fort Lowell.

1421
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,940
We'll talk to you about your technology and keep you up to date.

1422
00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:24,800
We'll be right back with more of the Computer Guru Show right after this.

1423
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:50,540
Thanks for joining us.

1424
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:50,540


1425
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:50,540


1426
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:50,540


1427
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:54,200
Your computer guru, Mike Swanson, is here to help you tame that beast of a machine.

1428
00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:58,080
Join the chat right now at gurushow.com or call in.

1429
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,540
This is the Computer Guru Show on KVOY, The Voice.

1430
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,480
I'm nerdy in the extreme and lighter than sour cream.

1431
00:59:05,660 --> 00:59:08,820
I was in a V Club and Glee Club and even the Chess Team.

1432
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,180
Only question I ever thought was hard, what do I like, Kirk, or do I like Picard?

1433
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,400
Spend every weekend at the Renaissance Fair, got my name on my underwear.

1434
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:17,000
I've seen these trolls, I've seen these trolls, I've seen these trolls, I've seen these

1435
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,000


1436
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,140
trolls.

1437
00:59:17,140 --> 00:59:21,160
Welcome back to the Computer Guru Show, 7902040 if you'd like to be part of the show or you

1438
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,340
can join us in the chat, gurushow.com slash chat.

1439
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,180
Let's go ahead and talk to Sandy.

1440
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,280
Hey, Sandy, how are you?

1441
00:59:26,820 --> 00:59:27,180
Hi.

1442
00:59:27,420 --> 00:59:32,140
Well, I have a question about password manager and it might sound dumb, but I just want to

1443
00:59:32,140 --> 00:59:33,460
make sure I understand it.

1444
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,160
Okay.

1445
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:39,900
If I use a password manager, I don't have to know the password, but then I go and visit

1446
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:45,140
my daughter, I won't be able to log on to my account not knowing the password.

1447
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:46,820
It's physically on my computer.

1448
00:59:46,820 --> 00:59:47,260
Right?

1449
00:59:47,420 --> 00:59:47,840
A physical.

1450
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,560
There's a few ways around that and it turns out that they've thought of that.

1451
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,020
You have a couple of options.

1452
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:59,960
You can carry around a backup copy or a portable version of your password manager on a memory

1453
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,700
stick that you keep in your pocket or something.

1454
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,460
Then when you go somewhere else or using a machine that is not yours, you can put that

1455
01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:13,540
flash drive in and launch the password manager off of that particular stick.

1456
01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:13,980
Super.

1457
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:15,020
Super.

1458
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,800
Or in a lot of cases, you can just go and log in.

1459
01:00:16,820 --> 01:00:20,320
In a lot of cases, as long as you have internet access, you can just sign into your account

1460
01:00:20,940 --> 01:00:23,520
and it will allow you to access your passwords.

1461
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:24,960
Super.

1462
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,620
Thank you very much.

1463
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:27,840
You're quite welcome.

1464
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:28,960
Okay.

1465
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:29,340
Bye-bye.

1466
01:00:29,460 --> 01:00:30,680
Thank you and thanks for calling.

1467
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,980
It turns out that security is something that is an important thing.

1468
01:00:37,180 --> 01:00:38,820
In fact, it can cost you a little bit of money.

1469
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,900
A little bit or a lot of it if you're Marissa Meyer.

1470
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,380
So how much money did Marissa Meyer lose?

1471
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,780
$54 million.

1472
01:00:45,660 --> 01:00:46,180
$54 million.

1473
01:00:46,180 --> 01:00:50,740
Marissa Meyer, by the way, is the formerly CEO of Yahoo.

1474
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:59,760
One of her exit contract agreements was that if her performance was good, she would get

1475
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:00,420
$54 million.

1476
01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:06,600
But because of that gigantic Yahoo mail breach that happened last year.

1477
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:07,780
Didn't qualify.

1478
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,220
Yep.

1479
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:10,600
$54 million no longer in her pocket.

1480
01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:14,440
I mean, I'm sure she's not hurting for money, but that would have been nice.

1481
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,900
But who doesn't want an extra $54 million?

1482
01:01:16,260 --> 01:01:16,960
You know what I mean?

1483
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,000
She was that close.

1484
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:18,580
Yeah.

1485
01:01:18,620 --> 01:01:20,860
I guess Bill Gates could probably be like, meh.

1486
01:01:21,140 --> 01:01:21,580
Yeah.

1487
01:01:22,620 --> 01:01:25,560
There's a few people that are just like, eh, $54 million, whatever.

1488
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:26,160
Yeah.

1489
01:01:26,300 --> 01:01:27,080
Not a big deal.

1490
01:01:27,220 --> 01:01:27,480
Yeah.

1491
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:29,880
But Marissa Meyer is not one of them and I'm sure she's pretty sad.

1492
01:01:30,220 --> 01:01:33,280
I'm sure that that will affect her overall retirement plans.

1493
01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:34,580
To be fair, she definitely didn't deserve it.

1494
01:01:34,900 --> 01:01:35,340
No.

1495
01:01:35,740 --> 01:01:37,020
No, she did not.

1496
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,940
Just because the scope of that Yahoo breach was so massive.

1497
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:43,380
Yeah.

1498
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,740
She handled it and tried to cover it up.

1499
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:50,000
If you write a book about Marissa Meyer's time at Yahoo, I'm pretty sure it would be

1500
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,800
called Mismanagement.

1501
01:01:51,740 --> 01:01:53,240
Oh, that would be a good one.

1502
01:01:53,380 --> 01:01:54,300
I like that one there.

1503
01:01:55,140 --> 01:01:55,860
Oh, yeah.

1504
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,040
That's a good one.

1505
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,860
I'm going to have to patent that or trademark it anyway.

1506
01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:01,500
Just go ahead and write the book.

1507
01:02:01,580 --> 01:02:01,700
Yeah.

1508
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,780
On the first page, it'll just say, I don't know any of this stuff.

1509
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:06,800
I just came up with the title.

1510
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:07,280
Right.

1511
01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:10,080
Obviously, there was mismanagement.

1512
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:10,560
The end.

1513
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,480
I mean, that pretty much sums it up.

1514
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,200
Yeah.

1515
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:20,980
There was a gigantic breach and it caused some problems with the acquisition of Yahoo

1516
01:02:20,980 --> 01:02:22,280
Mail by Verizon even.

1517
01:02:22,540 --> 01:02:26,640
I mean, when they say gigantic, they mean the biggest data breach that had happened

1518
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,540
to that point.

1519
01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:29,240
It was like two billion accounts.

1520
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:30,660
Yeah.

1521
01:02:30,740 --> 01:02:32,440
That's a lot of data.

1522
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,120
I mean, that's impressive in its own route, I guess.

1523
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:38,220
I mean, how much time does it take to actually get the information for two billion

1524
01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:38,480
accounts?

1525
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:39,560
I mean, it's not instant.

1526
01:02:39,820 --> 01:02:40,280
No.

1527
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,460
Even if they were one bit per file.

1528
01:02:43,460 --> 01:02:43,460


1529
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:44,240
Right.

1530
01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:48,280
That would take a long time.

1531
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,940
And nobody noticed that they were in there.

1532
01:02:51,260 --> 01:02:56,320
I mean, it's much like the movie production house hack that happened a few years ago and

1533
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,340
it turned out that it was an inside job because people started going, wait a minute, there

1534
01:03:00,340 --> 01:03:03,920
is hundreds of terabytes of information that are-

1535
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,020
Yeah.

1536
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,020
At the very least, you'd notice that when your ISP called you and was like, hey, stop

1537
01:03:07,020 --> 01:03:07,940
using that much bandwidth.

1538
01:03:08,540 --> 01:03:08,860
Right.

1539
01:03:08,940 --> 01:03:13,160
Well, I mean, I don't know that the movie houses are going to have the ISP call them,

1540
01:03:13,180 --> 01:03:13,420
but-

1541
01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:13,460
Yeah.

1542
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:13,460


1543
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:13,460


1544
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1545
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1546
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1547
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1548
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1549
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1550
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1551
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:20,020
I mean, it's just, I mean, there's a physics question here, right?

1552
01:03:20,140 --> 01:03:23,280
Maybe they smuggled the data out in their blood.

1553
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:25,080
Oh, they could have.

1554
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:26,140
They could have.

1555
01:03:26,180 --> 01:03:27,080
In fact, one person.

1556
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,080
Yeah.

1557
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,400
Like many times over.

1558
01:03:30,260 --> 01:03:33,240
So let's talk about DNA for a second here.

1559
01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:38,100
It turns out that DNA stores a lot of information.

1560
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:43,100
We talked about DNA being tested as a storage medium about two years ago on the show.

1561
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:43,440
Yeah.

1562
01:03:43,460 --> 01:03:48,320
And they didn't really have any hard numbers about how much data they were able to store,

1563
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:55,800
but it turns out that 215 petabytes per gram of DNA.

1564
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,660
And so this is coming to light right now because there were researchers who were able to completely

1565
01:04:00,660 --> 01:04:04,180
write an entire operating system into-

1566
01:04:04,180 --> 01:04:04,620
And a movie.

1567
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:10,840
And a movie and an Amazon gift card and also a computer virus into a DNA sequence and then

1568
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,360
recover it and run it.

1569
01:04:12,580 --> 01:04:12,940
Oh.

1570
01:04:13,460 --> 01:04:15,220
And when they recovered, there was zero errors.

1571
01:04:15,740 --> 01:04:19,020
I mean, there's not even zero errors when you just transfer it to your flash drive.

1572
01:04:19,220 --> 01:04:19,440
Right.

1573
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:23,220
There's errors when you read it off the hard drive that you use every day.

1574
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:29,960
That's insane that they could pull that with zero errors, that much data.

1575
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,240
And so, yeah, they say that the storage capacity for DNA is pretty absurd.

1576
01:04:34,540 --> 01:04:37,800
Like you said, 215 petabytes per gram of DNA.

1577
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,600
So we did a little napkin math based on the average amount of DNA that a person has in

1578
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,100
their body, which I guess equates to about 300 grams in your whole body.

1579
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:46,360
Right.

1580
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,600
So you could store something like, what was it?

1581
01:04:48,620 --> 01:04:50,400
64 Yottabytes of data.

1582
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,040
Yeah.

1583
01:04:51,140 --> 01:04:52,600
It's exabytes.

1584
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:53,940
Exabytes.

1585
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:54,380
Yeah.

1586
01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:58,240
It is insane amounts of data.

1587
01:04:58,580 --> 01:05:06,300
It is more data in one person than exists in entirety anywhere.

1588
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,500
Now, I mean, I doubt the read-write speeds are super great for DNA.

1589
01:05:11,780 --> 01:05:12,340
Right.

1590
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:18,140
But imagine though that you have some type of secret information, right?

1591
01:05:18,260 --> 01:05:22,960
And then it opens up another challenge for security, which is if you're storing important

1592
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,040
information within your own DNA, then ...

1593
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:27,420
Yeah.

1594
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,900
That brings a whole new meaning to trust fund baby.

1595
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,040
Yeah.

1596
01:05:32,060 --> 01:05:32,920
Well, but think about it.

1597
01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:39,540
Somebody could technically take the glass at the bar and then have access to your information.

1598
01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:40,320
Yeah.

1599
01:05:40,340 --> 01:05:41,100
I mean, that's true.

1600
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:42,280
You'd have to encrypt it, I guess.

1601
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:42,800
Yeah.

1602
01:05:43,620 --> 01:05:44,920
It's going to be an interesting ...

1603
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,580
Don't the police already have the right to get your DNA?

1604
01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:48,860
No.

1605
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,060
That's another one of those weird areas too when it comes to ...

1606
01:05:52,060 --> 01:05:54,320
Because they can offer you like a soda in the ... Or is that just the movies?

1607
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,020
Well, I mean, if they offer you something, then it's entrapment.

1608
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,520
But if you ... They just take it up out of the trash.

1609
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,040
If there's just sodas on the table and you just grab one ...

1610
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,220
Right.

1611
01:06:03,220 --> 01:06:03,720
Then it's not.

1612
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:04,340
There you go.

1613
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:05,740
All right.

1614
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,400
Let's take a call here.

1615
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:06,960
Let's talk to Frank.

1616
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:07,400
Hey, Frank.

1617
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:07,800
How are you?

1618
01:06:08,540 --> 01:06:08,860
Hey.

1619
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:09,400
Good, guys.

1620
01:06:09,940 --> 01:06:10,260
Hey.

1621
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,080
I heard you talking about the ...

1622
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:11,080


1623
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:11,080


1624
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:14,060
You were talking earlier about YouTube TV and I'm curious.

1625
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,300
How does that work?

1626
01:06:16,540 --> 01:06:24,540
I have one of those bundled packages with phone, internet, and direct TV and I'm thinking

1627
01:06:24,540 --> 01:06:27,840
I'd like to get out of it pretty soon and that YouTube thing sounds interesting.

1628
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:28,960
Yeah.

1629
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,320
It sounds pretty good.

1630
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,560
I mean, you have to worry about data caps, of course, depending on your provider.

1631
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:39,980
But $35 a month and being able to watch all kinds of stuff and they allow you to do like

1632
01:06:39,980 --> 01:06:46,220
full DVR where you can just watch on demand and you even get the ability to fast forward

1633
01:06:46,220 --> 01:06:47,380
which you don't in Sling.

1634
01:06:47,620 --> 01:06:51,540
You'll have to check out their channel list for a full list and I'm sure it'll vary depending

1635
01:06:51,540 --> 01:06:52,240
on where you are.

1636
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:52,600


1637
01:06:53,020 --> 01:06:59,480
Yeah, because we ... I mean, we recently got a smart TV and we tend to watch Netflix through

1638
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,500
the TV more than we do any of the cable channels.

1639
01:07:02,780 --> 01:07:04,160
Right, which is normal.

1640
01:07:04,780 --> 01:07:09,940
Yeah, which ... So I'm thinking that once I'm able to get out of my ... Whatever the

1641
01:07:09,940 --> 01:07:15,960
cutoff deal is with the cable, I would prefer to get out of that and try something different.

1642
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,420
So just having an internet connection is all you need then to hook into it.

1643
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:20,880
Yep.

1644
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:21,120
Oh, great.

1645
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:21,560
All right.

1646
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,440
Okay, thanks a lot.

1647
01:07:22,620 --> 01:07:23,680
Well, good luck with that.

1648
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,760
I mean, I'm all down ... I'm totally down for people not being on cable.

1649
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,960
I mean, if this turns out to be good enough, maybe I should have waited a bit.

1650
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,380
Yeah, well, you can take a look at the list.

1651
01:07:33,460 --> 01:07:34,240
I can also cancel anytime.

1652
01:07:34,380 --> 01:07:35,000
I made sure of that.

1653
01:07:35,180 --> 01:07:36,420
Yeah, no contract for you, man.

1654
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:36,820
Correct.

1655
01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:38,300
That's not how we roll around.

1656
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:39,100
We don't do contracts.

1657
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,620
All right, stick around for more of the Computer Guru Show coming up right after these messages.

1658
01:07:44,500 --> 01:07:47,180
790-2040 if you want to get in line to have a conversation with us.

1659
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:47,880
We'll be right back.

1660
01:07:51,540 --> 01:07:51,880
.

1661
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1676
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1677
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1678
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1679
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1681
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1682
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1685
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1686
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1687
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1689
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1690
01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:24,660
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1693
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1696
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1697
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1698
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1699
01:08:24,740 --> 01:08:24,760
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1704
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1705
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1706
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1709
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1715
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1716
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1717
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1718
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.

1747
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1748
01:08:35,380 --> 01:08:38,520
Guru Show on AM 1030, KVOY The Voice.

1749
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,600
Welcome back to the Computer Guru Show.

1750
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:55,160
My name is Mike.

1751
01:08:55,180 --> 01:08:57,940
Here to deal with your technology needs and treat you like a person in the process.

1752
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,360
That's 790-2040.

1753
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:01,080
That's 520-790-24.

1754
01:09:01,780 --> 01:09:02,580
Wait, 2040?

1755
01:09:02,580 --> 01:09:06,280
2040, or join us in the chat, gurushow.com slash chat.

1756
01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:08,300
You can ask your question there, and we'll answer it on air.

1757
01:09:08,420 --> 01:09:11,820
A lot of times, also, if we don't answer the questions on air, Howard's in there as well,

1758
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,440
and he's helping people out, too.

1759
01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:14,380
I think John's in there, too, right?

1760
01:09:14,540 --> 01:09:14,740
Yeah.

1761
01:09:14,820 --> 01:09:18,420
You've got mostly the whole crew in there, answering questions away.

1762
01:09:18,860 --> 01:09:25,080
I try to get everybody to agree to the uniform guru underscore name, but only me did that.

1763
01:09:25,860 --> 01:09:26,220
Right.

1764
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,280
I never did.

1765
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:28,060
Yeah.

1766
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,460
I am the guru.

1767
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,000
Is that what I am?

1768
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,140
It's just the computer guru.

1769
01:09:32,580 --> 01:09:32,680
Okay.

1770
01:09:33,900 --> 01:09:34,900
Well, let's talk to Rick.

1771
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:35,620
Hey, Rick.

1772
01:09:35,660 --> 01:09:36,060
How are you?

1773
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:37,580
Hey, I'm doing okay.

1774
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:44,920
Hey, occasionally, I house-sit my son's house, and he's got internet television services

1775
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,920
like Roku and Hulu and all that.

1776
01:09:47,140 --> 01:09:47,420
Right.

1777
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:53,020
I find it kind of problematical and a little bit of a pain in the ass, but I don't think

1778
01:09:53,020 --> 01:09:55,920
it's as good as having satellite or cable.

1779
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,960
It depends on what you're looking for, and especially if there's fragmentation, right?

1780
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:01,040
Right.

1781
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:06,100
So if they're using multiple services on different devices.

1782
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:06,200
Right.

1783
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,280
Well, you've got about eight different ... You can do Hulu or Roku or this one or that one.

1784
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,320
There's about six or eight different choices.

1785
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,540
Then I notice that, okay, I'll see a program that's on the menu.

1786
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,060
Hey, I'd like to watch that, right?

1787
01:10:18,220 --> 01:10:25,420
Well, then a lot of times it'll be like $3.99, $7.99, $15.99.

1788
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:26,100
You know what I'm saying?

1789
01:10:26,140 --> 01:10:30,940
In other words, you've got to enter a credit card number right then in order to use it.

1790
01:10:30,940 --> 01:10:30,940


1791
01:10:30,940 --> 01:10:30,940


1792
01:10:30,940 --> 01:10:32,460
This is true.

1793
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:33,180
Now ...

1794
01:10:33,180 --> 01:10:40,500
So channel surfing and stuff, I mean, in the past I've had not only cable from a Tucson

1795
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:47,260
cable or whatever, but then I had the Dish Network satellite top package, which was 200

1796
01:10:47,260 --> 01:10:48,140
plus channels.

1797
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:51,120
So here's the thing with the Rokus.

1798
01:10:52,760 --> 01:11:00,180
Roku and Apple TV both have this fatal flaw, in my opinion, is that they sell you a relatively

1799
01:11:00,180 --> 01:11:00,820
cheap device.

1800
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,120
They say you can get online and watch whatever you want, but by the way, we're going to microcharge

1801
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,080
the heck out of you.

1802
01:11:06,580 --> 01:11:07,760
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1803
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:11,420
I mean, in other words, there's many programs where it would say, yeah, you can watch this,

1804
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:12,660
but it's like $7.99.

1805
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:13,560
So here's ...

1806
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,680
Key in your credit card number or whatever.

1807
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,200
Here's how I deal with it.

1808
01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:23,380
I have an Apple ... Or I'm sorry, an Amazon Fire TV, and I have an Amazon Prime account.

1809
01:11:24,380 --> 01:11:30,100
With the two things together, I can watch basically any TV show.

1810
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:34,040
I can watch any video or any movie, and it's included in the price of my Amazon Prime account.

1811
01:11:34,580 --> 01:11:35,400
Well, that's good.

1812
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,640
See, I'm being just a house sitter.

1813
01:11:38,180 --> 01:11:40,180
I wasn't ... I didn't have all of those.

1814
01:11:40,180 --> 01:11:43,540
Well, this is information you can give to your son then, so he can have a better experience.

1815
01:11:43,660 --> 01:11:44,840
Yeah, he probably knows already.

1816
01:11:45,220 --> 01:11:47,260
I'm just saying, when I was watching this ...

1817
01:11:47,260 --> 01:11:51,920
Well, what I found is a lot of people, they get locked into this idea, right?

1818
01:11:52,020 --> 01:11:53,500
They're like, well, I bought this Roku.

1819
01:11:53,660 --> 01:11:58,020
It cost me 40 bucks or 60 bucks or whatever, and then they never think, there's probably

1820
01:11:58,020 --> 01:11:58,980
something better out there.

1821
01:11:59,040 --> 01:11:59,860
It doesn't cost much.

1822
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:00,620
Right?

1823
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:09,560
So, like the Amazon Fire Stick costs $35, and then your Amazon account gives you access

1824
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,660
to effectively everything.

1825
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:17,560
Now, Amazon is not to be trifled with when it comes to the number of programs that they

1826
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,580
have available to you.

1827
01:12:19,420 --> 01:12:20,400
They are ...

1828
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,000
They have a lot?

1829
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:21,780
Oh, yeah.

1830
01:12:21,940 --> 01:12:24,420
They are Netflix and then some.

1831
01:12:24,780 --> 01:12:28,260
It's like if you were to take Netflix and Hulu and stick them together.

1832
01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:32,860
They have got everything, and it's all included in the price.

1833
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:33,620
So, it's a lot ...

1834
01:12:33,620 --> 01:12:35,200
They have more than like Dish Network?

1835
01:12:36,580 --> 01:12:39,520
As far as ... They have basically everything that's on ...

1836
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:39,920
The amount of choices.

1837
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:44,940
Like if you get the top of the line Dish package, they got like 200 plus.

1838
01:12:45,460 --> 01:12:51,300
I have never, in my personal experience, I have never asked for a program to be displayed

1839
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:53,380
on my television that was not available.

1840
01:12:54,060 --> 01:12:54,540
Okay.

1841
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,240
Like the Heroes Channel, which formerly was called the Heroes Channel.

1842
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:58,240


1843
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:58,240


1844
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,120
The Heroes Channel is the military channel.

1845
01:12:59,660 --> 01:13:01,140
That's one I like to watch a lot.

1846
01:13:01,380 --> 01:13:01,760
I don't know.

1847
01:13:01,900 --> 01:13:05,320
They definitely have a lot of those kinds of shows on Amazon Prime, because I watch some

1848
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:05,900
of that stuff too.

1849
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:07,980
It might be worth just looking around.

1850
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,620
You can go to the Amazon website and check out what they've got available as far as TV.

1851
01:13:11,820 --> 01:13:15,320
Yeah, I have to tell them about that, because like I said, when I was taking care of his

1852
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:22,200
place for a week or two, I was both frustrated and a little PO'd about the way that they

1853
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:22,980
had it set up.

1854
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,180
I mean, there was a lot of choices, but almost everything.

1855
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,220
There was a few things that I was a little bit frustrated about.

1856
01:13:28,220 --> 01:13:28,220


1857
01:13:28,220 --> 01:13:28,220


1858
01:13:28,220 --> 01:13:28,220


1859
01:13:28,220 --> 01:13:28,420
I mean, I was a little bit frustrated about the fact that I was not able to get a lot

1860
01:13:28,420 --> 01:13:31,300
of the things that were available for free, maybe half a dozen things that were free, and

1861
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:34,380
then the rest was key in your credit card.

1862
01:13:34,540 --> 01:13:40,400
You still have to consider, though, that there is a ... He's paying probably nothing per

1863
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:45,680
month other than internet for that, as opposed to what would be involved with a monthly charge

1864
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,080
for a satellite or cable.

1865
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:47,580
Right, right, right.

1866
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:55,380
I'm just saying, not carrying a calculator around with me at all times and all that,

1867
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:57,460
I could see where my bill ...

1868
01:13:57,460 --> 01:13:58,200
Yeah, I understand.

1869
01:13:58,220 --> 01:14:03,420
I was paying like $90 a month for the Capital Nine Dish Network.

1870
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:12,640
At the rate I would watch interesting programs in a month, I would way, way exceed $90 a

1871
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,440
month if I were to go ahead and pay for those programs individually.

1872
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:17,000
Yeah.

1873
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:22,300
When it's set up right, a cord cutting service, like I said, when it's set up right can cost

1874
01:14:22,300 --> 01:14:24,760
a fraction of that, and you'll have access to nearly everything.

1875
01:14:24,980 --> 01:14:25,160
Right.

1876
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,200
So everything that I watch, if I were to take a ... If I were to add everything I'd have

1877
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:28,200


1878
01:14:28,220 --> 01:14:33,820
that is involved with the system that I use for being able to get everything.

1879
01:14:33,940 --> 01:14:40,280
Like I said, I've never run across a program that I did not have access to for the included price.

1880
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:53,140
I pay $80 a year for Amazon Prime, and then I paid about $30 a month for the additional services

1881
01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:56,440
that go on some of the back-end stuff of what I use, and then Internet.

1882
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,540
And that's it.

1883
01:14:57,540 --> 01:15:03,260
Oh, that's pretty good because, I mean, yeah, obviously at $90 a month, you'd be paying a lot of money.

1884
01:15:03,340 --> 01:15:03,700
Right.

1885
01:15:03,820 --> 01:15:06,380
And you'd be paying $1,200 almost a month.

1886
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:12,720
When we do the get-together in, like, April or whatever, we'll show a demo of how to do it right.

1887
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:17,660
And you guys can come down and check out what cord cutting actually looks like if you do it properly.

1888
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,020
But thanks for the call, Rick.

1889
01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:19,600
Yeah, I've got a question for you.

1890
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,160
Yeah, go ahead.

1891
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:20,740
I've got a question for you.

1892
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:21,820
Yeah, maybe quick, though.

1893
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,860
Yeah, I've got an HP executive laptop computer, and I've got the Dragon software.

1894
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:27,460
Oh.

1895
01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:29,380
And an inexpensive printer.

1896
01:15:29,540 --> 01:15:31,640
I was thinking about putting out a book on my own.

1897
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,560
You know, I have an incredible life story.

1898
01:15:33,860 --> 01:15:38,080
I was thinking about coming out with my own book and maybe self-publishing it or whatever.

1899
01:15:38,420 --> 01:15:41,280
But where is your shop on Fort Lowell?

1900
01:15:41,340 --> 01:15:43,500
Because I may have to come over there and get your advice.

1901
01:15:44,140 --> 01:15:45,100
510 East Fort Lowell.

1902
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:46,060
It's at 1st and Fort Lowell.

1903
01:15:46,860 --> 01:15:47,200
All right.

1904
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:47,840
Thanks, Mike.

1905
01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:48,260
All right.

1906
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:49,120
Appreciate the call, Rick.

1907
01:15:49,180 --> 01:15:49,780
Thank you very much.

1908
01:15:49,820 --> 01:15:50,880
Hey, one more thing.

1909
01:15:51,020 --> 01:15:51,900
You are the guru.

1910
01:15:52,620 --> 01:15:53,340
Yes, I am.

1911
01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:54,500
Thank you very much.

1912
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:55,660
All right.

1913
01:15:55,700 --> 01:15:56,840
We're going to take another break, I think.

1914
01:15:56,900 --> 01:15:57,520
That's what we're going to do.

1915
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,180
I'm going to make Kent push some buttons here.

1916
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,640
And when we come back from the break, more Computer Guru at 790-2040.

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01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:05,500
Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:25,200
Thank you.

1953
01:16:25,420 --> 01:16:25,560
Thank you.

1954
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,580
She would do what you told her how to walk this way.

1955
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,000
Walk this way.

1956
01:16:30,620 --> 01:16:32,260
Walk this way.

1957
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,740
Walk this way.

1958
01:16:35,340 --> 01:16:36,780
Walk this way.

1959
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,360
She told me to walk this way.

1960
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,520
Walk this way.

1961
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,940
Walk this way.

1962
01:16:44,420 --> 01:16:45,880
Walk this way.

1963
01:16:46,020 --> 01:16:47,380
She said give me a kiss.

1964
01:16:48,660 --> 01:16:51,940
Computer troubles? Need some advice? Call in now.

1965
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:54,340
Mike Swanson will be back after these messages.

1966
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The Computer Guru Show.

1967
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,000
AM 1030, KVOY, The Voice.

1968
01:17:09,540 --> 01:17:12,600
Mike Swanson, your computer guru, is just a click away.

1969
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,100
Listen and watch at gurushow.com.

1970
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This is the Computer Guru Show.

1971
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,560
Welcome back to the Computer Guru Show, 7902040.

1972
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,620
If you'd like to be part of the show,

1973
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,320
or if you'd like to be part of the show,

1974
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:25,980
join us in the chat, gurushow.com.

1975
01:17:26,300 --> 01:17:28,140
You can ask your questions there,

1976
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,380
and you'll get a multitude of answers.

1977
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:31,360
Probably too many.

1978
01:17:31,860 --> 01:17:35,120
You'll be answered so hard, you'll just want to leave.

1979
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,500
And then probably people will disagree about the answers

1980
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:39,620
that other people gave, and everyone will just argue.

1981
01:17:39,860 --> 01:17:40,740
And then I will settle it.

1982
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:43,480
And start kicking people out of the chat.

1983
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,700
So I did want to mention one more thing

1984
01:17:45,700 --> 01:17:47,640
in the cord cutting world for a second.

1985
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,120
A lot of the complaints that people have

1986
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,660
about the whole cord cutting setup

1987
01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:53,920
is that it doesn't feel like actual TV,

1988
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,180
where you can just flip through channels.

1989
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,520
There is a solution for that, though.

1990
01:17:57,860 --> 01:18:00,160
There's a software called Pseudo TV Live,

1991
01:18:00,620 --> 01:18:01,920
which you can set up on a computer,

1992
01:18:02,380 --> 01:18:03,700
or any device, really.

1993
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,980
And then you just hook up all of your services to it,

1994
01:18:06,020 --> 01:18:09,400
and it makes them all into a pseudo cable device.

1995
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,980
So you can just flip through your channels.

1996
01:18:11,220 --> 01:18:12,420
There's stuff playing constantly.

1997
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:13,300
It's pretty cool.

1998
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:16,440
Yeah, I guess that I've been doing this for so long now

1999
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:19,000
that I have no nostalgia.

2000
01:18:19,500 --> 01:18:20,240
Yeah, I agree.

2001
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,400
For any of that stuff.

2002
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,120
I mean, so there are circumstances

2003
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:23,900
in which I like to do this.

2004
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:23,900


2005
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:23,900


2006
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:25,560
I like to just have something on in the background.

2007
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,040
But in that case, I'll just turn on autoplay, you know,

2008
01:18:29,060 --> 01:18:31,260
and I'll just watch a whole show or something.

2009
01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:33,260
I guess I'm weird in that respect,

2010
01:18:33,780 --> 01:18:36,620
is that a lot of people like to put things on

2011
01:18:36,620 --> 01:18:37,520
for background noise.

2012
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,320
And the only background noise that I have in my life

2013
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:40,960
is a fan.

2014
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,800
And then the rest of it is silence.

2015
01:18:42,980 --> 01:18:45,160
I just enjoy silence so much

2016
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,940
that I have noise-canceling headphones

2017
01:18:48,940 --> 01:18:50,440
that I don't plug into anything.

2018
01:18:50,580 --> 01:18:52,420
Well, what you don't have, Mike, is tinnitus.

2019
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:53,200
So...

2020
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:53,580
This is...

2021
01:18:53,580 --> 01:18:53,840
This is...

2022
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:53,880
This is...

2023
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,000
This is true.

2024
01:18:55,660 --> 01:18:57,280
So, yeah, my dad was told me.

2025
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,040
He said that he's developed tinnitus recently.

2026
01:18:59,420 --> 01:19:00,500
I've got some of that going on.

2027
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,880
It's because you go to those acid rock concerts

2028
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:04,580
that you go to.

2029
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:05,600
Acid rock?

2030
01:19:05,940 --> 01:19:09,060
It's what my grandfather used to call anything that was...

2031
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:10,960
anything that was harder than the Beatles.

2032
01:19:11,480 --> 01:19:11,840
Right?

2033
01:19:12,700 --> 01:19:14,920
Yeah, it's all those acid rock shows that I go to.

2034
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,420
Oh, man.

2035
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:17,880
That was...

2036
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,020
That just came out of nowhere.

2037
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,680
I just remember him saying that one time

2038
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:22,460
and I was just like,

2039
01:19:22,580 --> 01:19:23,860
oh, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

2040
01:19:23,860 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaking of old man stuff, though,

2041
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,280
I wanted to kind of...

2042
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:28,160
I wanted to call you out

2043
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,500
and see if you're as good as your word on something.

2044
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:29,860
Okay.

2045
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,560
The Nokia 3310 is available once again.

2046
01:19:33,660 --> 01:19:34,720
That's the famous phone

2047
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,660
that could stop a speeding bullet, as they said.

2048
01:19:36,980 --> 01:19:37,780
It used to be able to.

2049
01:19:37,900 --> 01:19:38,100
Yeah.

2050
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,640
So, you were saying a couple weeks ago

2051
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,540
that you like the old phones?

2052
01:19:43,480 --> 01:19:45,360
I still have a wish

2053
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,740
that I could just have a non-smartphone.

2054
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,260
So, is this more of like a...

2055
01:19:49,260 --> 01:19:50,700
I dream of a world

2056
01:19:50,700 --> 01:19:52,540
in which I would be able to do that kind of thing?

2057
01:19:52,780 --> 01:19:53,640
Well, it's...

2058
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,300
Because of my need for my smartphone

2059
01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:58,380
for my data plan that I use all day,

2060
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,860
I cannot switch.

2061
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,040
However, if I could,

2062
01:20:03,420 --> 01:20:05,220
if I did not need that plan anymore,

2063
01:20:05,420 --> 01:20:06,440
I would not have a smartphone.

2064
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:07,520
Do you think that you would go

2065
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,640
to the new old Nokia phone?

2066
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:11,040
Yeah.

2067
01:20:11,060 --> 01:20:12,160
I wish it would have been more like

2068
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,900
the old, old Nokia phone.

2069
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,280
The new one.

2070
01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:16,460
Or like, here's a name

2071
01:20:16,460 --> 01:20:17,420
you haven't heard in a while, probably.

2072
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,800
Like the old Kyocera phones.

2073
01:20:19,220 --> 01:20:20,100
The StarTAC phones?

2074
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:20,460
Yeah.

2075
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,080
Remember playing Brick Attack on those things?

2076
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:22,880
Although,

2077
01:20:22,940 --> 01:20:23,500
I have to...

2078
01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:23,600
I have to admit,

2079
01:20:23,740 --> 01:20:25,280
the only thing that made me really happy

2080
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:26,820
about the new Nokia phone,

2081
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:28,720
which is modeled after the old one,

2082
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:29,620
the one that was...

2083
01:20:29,620 --> 01:20:31,080
The one that you find...

2084
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,440
The only cell phone

2085
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:35,320
that will be found in archaeological digs

2086
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,460
is the Nokia 3310

2087
01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:42,060
or that whole family of Nokia phones.

2088
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,520
I was very happy to know

2089
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,400
that the Snake game still works on that.

2090
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,200
Yeah, if you weren't playing Snake, man,

2091
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:51,360
just get out of town.

2092
01:20:51,540 --> 01:20:51,740
Yeah.

2093
01:20:51,740 --> 01:20:53,960
You don't know how to use a phone.

2094
01:20:53,980 --> 01:20:55,040
So, this one has a two...

2095
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,620
It has a two megapixel camera,

2096
01:20:56,820 --> 01:20:57,760
whereas the old phone

2097
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,580
had like a two pixel camera, I think.

2098
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:00,500
It had a potato.

2099
01:21:00,780 --> 01:21:02,020
They had cameras, right?

2100
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:02,900
Some of these older...

2101
01:21:02,900 --> 01:21:04,240
Oh, I'm thinking of the Kyocera ones.

2102
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,800
There were cameras on those.

2103
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,000
Yeah, Nokia's did not have cameras.

2104
01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:08,120
But they were measured in like...

2105
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,760
Like I said, just pixels at that point.

2106
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:12,140
They were terrible.

2107
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,220
Yeah, they were terrible.

2108
01:21:14,860 --> 01:21:16,240
All right, let's fit a call in here

2109
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,120
before we run out of show time here.

2110
01:21:18,180 --> 01:21:19,000
Hey, Dave, how are you?

2111
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:20,700
Yeah, hi.

2112
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:21,400
Good morning.

2113
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:23,800
Hey, wanted to ask

2114
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,500
what you think about

2115
01:21:25,500 --> 01:21:29,080
how, if you're going to be a cable cutter

2116
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,180
or get away from cable TV,

2117
01:21:31,540 --> 01:21:36,680
how do you get your regular TV network stations?

2118
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,180
Are you talking about local?

2119
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,300
Yeah, local stations.

2120
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:41,940
Now, I can't get over the air.

2121
01:21:42,660 --> 01:21:44,040
I'm in a problem area

2122
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,960
where there's no reception, whatever.

2123
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,460
Many of the official services,

2124
01:21:48,540 --> 01:21:50,560
like the upcoming YouTube TV

2125
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,120
that's being released here,

2126
01:21:53,260 --> 01:21:54,080
will offer...

2127
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,240
Yeah, I read that with interest.

2128
01:21:55,620 --> 01:21:58,020
They will offer local channels as well.

2129
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,840
So there's going to be...

2130
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,200
Most of them offer some type of local add-on.

2131
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,060
And it's usually an additional charge.

2132
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,140
But apparently, from what I understand

2133
01:22:08,140 --> 01:22:09,260
with the YouTube TV one,

2134
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:10,400
that they're going to be included

2135
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,120
for your local area.

2136
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:13,340
So that'll be interesting.

2137
01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:16,280
That's the only one you've heard of so far?

2138
01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:18,380
Sling offers it as well, but it's a premium.

2139
01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:20,200
You have to buy the extra package.

2140
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,540
Yep, Sling TV offers it.

2141
01:22:22,740 --> 01:22:24,340
YouTube TV is going to offer it for free.

2142
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,740
There's a couple of other services

2143
01:22:26,740 --> 01:22:29,640
that historically have offered it.

2144
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,480
I know that one of them is in lawsuit entanglement

2145
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:34,060
at the moment,

2146
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:35,320
so they're no longer offering it.

2147
01:22:35,980 --> 01:22:38,220
But there were several out there that offer that.

2148
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,260
And to me, though,

2149
01:22:41,780 --> 01:22:42,840
it's another one of those things

2150
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,920
where when I started doing the cord-cutting bit,

2151
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,660
there was no option for local channels.

2152
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,960
So I've not seen a local channel,

2153
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:51,280
and I've been on a local channel in about a decade.

2154
01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:53,100
So I don't really know what that's like,

2155
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:54,320
other than I just go to their website

2156
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:55,620
and watch the videos that they put up.

2157
01:22:55,940 --> 01:22:57,780
Yeah, a lot of times, if you're worried about news,

2158
01:22:58,220 --> 01:22:59,880
almost every news channel nowadays

2159
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:01,740
slices up their news segments

2160
01:23:01,740 --> 01:23:02,700
and throws them on YouTube.

2161
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:05,280
Yeah, yeah.

2162
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,980
Well, I give them enough already for the internet.

2163
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,560
Yeah, well, I mean, it's coming to this.

2164
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:13,700
It's much like cell phones.

2165
01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:14,700
We were talking before the show

2166
01:23:14,700 --> 01:23:18,200
how voice minutes and text messages

2167
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:19,660
used to be a big...

2168
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,500
determining factor on which plan you're going to get.

2169
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,020
And now it doesn't really mean anything.

2170
01:23:24,140 --> 01:23:24,820
Everything's data.

2171
01:23:24,980 --> 01:23:27,900
And it's going to be the same thing when it comes to TV, right?

2172
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,480
Because even your TV that you're watching on your cable box,

2173
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,020
probably half of it comes directly over data anyway.

2174
01:23:35,220 --> 01:23:37,840
It's not real cable anymore anyway.

2175
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,100
It's all digital DVR craziness.

2176
01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:42,660
Yeah, I mean, your Cox box is essentially

2177
01:23:42,660 --> 01:23:44,700
a really fancy Roku at this point.

2178
01:23:44,780 --> 01:23:45,020
Right.

2179
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,440
It's this mandatory Roku box

2180
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:48,740
that you have to have to watch that service.

2181
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,360
And it's specialized for them.

2182
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,240
So it's really coming down to the fact that

2183
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,540
at some point, you're just going to have a data package

2184
01:23:54,540 --> 01:23:56,260
and you're going to do whatever you want with it.

2185
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:56,940
And that's fine.

2186
01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:59,360
Interesting you brought up the Roku.

2187
01:23:59,540 --> 01:24:00,760
I have a Roku.

2188
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,580
And because of that, I can watch news

2189
01:24:04,580 --> 01:24:07,800
in like three other cities already, you know,

2190
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,480
which I already use.

2191
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:11,200
Right.

2192
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,980
And I'm not a fan of the Rokus myself, personally.

2193
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:15,140
I don't like the Rokus.

2194
01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:17,360
I mean, I bought one just to check it out.

2195
01:24:17,460 --> 01:24:19,800
And I think it's sitting at the shop now.

2196
01:24:19,900 --> 01:24:20,160
It is.

2197
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,780
We were actually thinking about hooking it up.

2198
01:24:21,820 --> 01:24:23,880
And it's one of these things.

2199
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,220
It's just like, I don't like the interface.

2200
01:24:25,380 --> 01:24:26,940
I definitely don't like the packages involved,

2201
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:28,360
you know, that they include.

2202
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,100
And then everything's a micro charge on top of that.

2203
01:24:31,220 --> 01:24:32,080
And I don't like that either.

2204
01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:35,600
That's why I went with something like the Fire TV,

2205
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,060
which I thought was a better deal.

2206
01:24:37,860 --> 01:24:41,320
And to me, it feels better.

2207
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,360
And so as far as the interface is concerned,

2208
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:46,100
not to mention that I'm not being charged

2209
01:24:46,100 --> 01:24:47,760
for every little thing that I do.

2210
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:49,320
Yeah, with the right services,

2211
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,260
those local channels aren't an issue.

2212
01:24:51,740 --> 01:24:52,140
Right.

2213
01:24:52,260 --> 01:24:53,940
They've gotten better, I'll tell you,

2214
01:24:53,980 --> 01:24:55,840
on the Roku over the years.

2215
01:24:56,140 --> 01:24:58,300
Well, we'll fire up that Roku at the shop

2216
01:24:58,300 --> 01:24:59,660
and we'll check it out and I'll give you an update.

2217
01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:00,860
Please do.

2218
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:01,520
All right.

2219
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,540
Thanks for the call, Dave.

2220
01:25:02,580 --> 01:25:03,120
I appreciate it.

2221
01:25:03,540 --> 01:25:03,940
Bye.

2222
01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:06,560
Well, before the show ends,

2223
01:25:06,700 --> 01:25:09,480
I wanted to take a moment to thank Desert Pro Cleaning

2224
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:10,820
for being our Patreon sponsor.

2225
01:25:11,500 --> 01:25:11,800
Yeah.

2226
01:25:11,980 --> 01:25:13,840
They do a great job.

2227
01:25:14,020 --> 01:25:16,000
Did we pay off and send those recordings in yet?

2228
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:16,800
Not yet.

2229
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,140
But this way, we will never, ever forget

2230
01:25:19,140 --> 01:25:21,380
to do it like we accidentally did a couple of weeks ago.

2231
01:25:21,660 --> 01:25:23,400
I'm sorry about that over Desert Pro.

2232
01:25:23,620 --> 01:25:25,940
I mean, I forget things.

2233
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,660
I'm just here trying to fix people's problems on the air

2234
01:25:29,660 --> 01:25:31,000
and I forget to say things like,

2235
01:25:31,180 --> 01:25:33,780
hey, thanks for giving us money and supporting the show.

2236
01:25:33,980 --> 01:25:36,480
And they've been a big sponsor on Patreon for us

2237
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:37,700
for quite some time now,

2238
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:38,920
so we definitely appreciate them.

2239
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:39,480
Yes.

2240
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:40,780
And they also do really good work

2241
01:25:40,780 --> 01:25:42,000
because we use them in our Eastside location

2242
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,620
and every time I go there, it looks nice.

2243
01:25:43,860 --> 01:25:44,380
It does.

2244
01:25:44,580 --> 01:25:46,840
Yeah, so Desert Pro Commercial Cleaning.

2245
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,120
I don't know why Mike loves the Eastside more than he does.

2246
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:49,120


2247
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:49,120


2248
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:50,100
He likes the Fort Lowell office,

2249
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,440
which could definitely use it, but...

2250
01:25:52,440 --> 01:25:55,960
Well, we'll just say that there's a political matter involved

2251
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:56,920
with Fort Lowell.

2252
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:57,120
Ah.

2253
01:25:57,420 --> 01:25:59,800
And, you know, there's an agreement

2254
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,680
that has already been reached for cleaning of Fort Lowell

2255
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,000
and, you know, I can't go messing with that.

2256
01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:06,540
That's true.

2257
01:26:06,660 --> 01:26:07,060
That's true.

2258
01:26:07,420 --> 01:26:10,460
So, it's politics, man.

2259
01:26:10,580 --> 01:26:11,640
You know, what can you say?

2260
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:12,820
Especially family politics.

2261
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,060
Yeah, and I shouldn't, you know,

2262
01:26:15,140 --> 01:26:16,920
the job gets done very well.

2263
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:18,680
Good.

2264
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:20,580
Good recovery, man.

2265
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:20,800
Yeah.

2266
01:26:21,260 --> 01:26:24,700
I'm going to take this part of the podcast out

2267
01:26:24,700 --> 01:26:26,060
and then I'm going to send it to my mom.

2268
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:27,580
Or you could not do that.

2269
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:30,760
So, yeah.

2270
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,820
You could just take this part of the podcast out, actually.

2271
01:26:32,900 --> 01:26:33,440
There we go.

2272
01:26:33,540 --> 01:26:35,420
So, yeah, Desert Pro Commercial Cleaners,

2273
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,780
you can visit their website.

2274
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:37,820
You can check them out.

2275
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:39,360
It'll be linked in the show notes.

2276
01:26:39,780 --> 01:26:42,560
And we really appreciate them supporting us on Patreon.

2277
01:26:42,740 --> 01:26:44,160
They do a great job of cleaning Harrison

2278
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,460
and it's just lovely.

2279
01:26:46,540 --> 01:26:48,060
They're very, very nice people to deal with.

2280
01:26:48,140 --> 01:26:48,820
Especially because...

2281
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,900
You know, when I get to go blow things up later,

2282
01:26:51,020 --> 01:26:52,580
that's in large part thanks to them.

2283
01:26:52,700 --> 01:26:55,140
Yeah, and I don't get to, you know,

2284
01:26:55,140 --> 01:26:56,660
I don't get to see those guys

2285
01:26:56,660 --> 01:26:58,500
other than on the security cameras at night

2286
01:26:58,500 --> 01:26:59,200
when they're in there cleaning.

2287
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,260
But they seem to be doing a great job.

2288
01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:04,980
And every time I go over there,

2289
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:05,680
the place is clean.

2290
01:27:05,780 --> 01:27:06,560
So, that's good.

2291
01:27:06,660 --> 01:27:07,260
That's what I like.

2292
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,940
So, you can be a Patreon sponsor, too.

2293
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,820
Yeah, and if you want to be able to help us out,

2294
01:27:11,860 --> 01:27:13,480
you can go ahead and support us on Patreon.

2295
01:27:13,540 --> 01:27:14,780
Go to gurushow.com

2296
01:27:14,780 --> 01:27:16,880
and there's a link, a Patreon link

2297
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:18,960
that you can go to to support us

2298
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,260
with as little as a dollar a month.

2299
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,320
You find more in your couch cushions.

2300
01:27:23,420 --> 01:27:24,320
And if you do that,

2301
01:27:24,380 --> 01:27:25,760
if you contribute that one dollar a month,

2302
01:27:25,860 --> 01:27:28,280
you will get access to this awesome video

2303
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,440
that we've been planning for a while

2304
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:30,460
as well as many others

2305
01:27:30,460 --> 01:27:31,940
that we have already started planning

2306
01:27:31,940 --> 01:27:32,900
and are going to do.

2307
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,740
Because it turns out this stuff's really fun

2308
01:27:34,740 --> 01:27:35,920
and we really like doing it.

2309
01:27:36,220 --> 01:27:36,580
Right.

2310
01:27:36,700 --> 01:27:37,680
The one I'm looking forward to

2311
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,820
is the home automation project.

2312
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:39,800
That's going to be a lot of fun.

2313
01:27:39,900 --> 01:27:42,400
So, the recording studio is going to get fully automated

2314
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,160
so I can walk in the room and, you know,

2315
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:46,800
just do whatever.

2316
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:47,700
Star Trek style.

2317
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:48,220
Yeah.

2318
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,540
And then we're going to show you the weaknesses.

2319
01:27:50,740 --> 01:27:53,360
We're going to basically hack the system.

2320
01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:54,540
See, I'm excited for that part

2321
01:27:54,540 --> 01:27:55,840
because this is my interest anyway.

2322
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:57,840
So, go to Patreon.

2323
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,800
Go to our website, gurushow.com.

2324
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:00,700
Click the Patreon logo.

2325
01:28:00,820 --> 01:28:02,580
Get signed up for a dollar a month

2326
01:28:02,580 --> 01:28:04,200
and you will get access to all of this and more.

2327
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:05,100
Right.

2328
01:28:05,140 --> 01:28:06,800
And if you're concerned about security,

2329
01:28:07,060 --> 01:28:07,660
if you want to make sure

2330
01:28:07,660 --> 01:28:09,540
that you're being a little bit safer online,

2331
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,060
get yourself involved with some VPN service,

2332
01:28:12,300 --> 01:28:14,100
you go to gurushow.com slash VPN

2333
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:16,280
and you can be linked up with TunnelBear.

2334
01:28:16,540 --> 01:28:18,640
And that's the VPN service

2335
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,240
that we're recommending for everyone to use

2336
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,380
to keep yourself just a little bit safer online.

2337
01:28:22,480 --> 01:28:25,200
Make sure that you can maintain some anonymity.

2338
01:28:25,300 --> 01:28:27,480
You can also visit us at 510 East Fort Lowell

2339
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:29,180
or 64 North Harrison in Tucson.

2340
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:31,400
That way you can help us keep the show on the air

2341
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,080
by, I don't know, supporting the business.

2342
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Letting us fix your computers and all of that.

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Because that's what we do all week.

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This is just a hobby on the weekends.

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But thanks again for listening to the Computer Guru Show.

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Give us a call down at the shop, 304-8300.

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And we'll see you next week.

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You know, we really enjoy doing this show.

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I mean, I've been doing it for, what, nine years now?

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So I must be liking it.

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But here's the thing.

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It costs a lot of money to put this show on.

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And you can help us keep this show on the air

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for as little as a dollar a month.

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All you've got to do is go to gurushow.com

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and click on the Patreon link.

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And from there, you can see that we have

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all kinds of rewards for Patreon members.

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You also get exclusive access to content

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that is made strictly for Patreon members.

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We get to blow up Furbies, automate homes,

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and put fun tech videos

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on.

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We're here to help you learn.

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And maybe you can help us keep that going

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by supporting us on Patreon.